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Podcast Wars: “Traitor” Tucker Carlson, “evil” Candace Owens, and “pathetic” Nick Fuentes
This week's right-wing podcaster infighting
Written by Noah VanDowe & Ben Van Bloem
Published 10/09/26
Welcome to Media Matters’ regular debrief on the Podcast Wars. This week, many figures directed their ire toward Tucker Carlson following his contentious and controversial interview with former member of British parliament Jacob Rees-Mogg on the Russia-Ukraine war and “Britain’s decision to fight against Adolf Hitler.”
Tucker Carlson is either a “useful idiot” or a “traitor”
Daily Wire co-founder Ben Shapiro called Carlson’s claims during the Rees-Mogg interview “so disgusting and also stupid,” accusing him of “saying it would be better if Hitler had won World War II.” Shapiro also mocked Carlson for suggesting “that nuclear weapons were created by demons” and argued Carlson “hates the West as currently constituted. … This is why I’ve said many, many times that Tucker is the horseshoe right, and he joins hands with the left in hatred for the West.”
Fox host Mark Levin on Carlson: “He's an out of the closet antisemite. I think he hates his own country, our country. And I think in many ways he's a traitor.” Levin grouped Carlson among “a cabal” of “flawed perverts, criminals and crooks and propagandists.”
Reacting to the Rees-Mogg interview, podcaster Konstantin Kisin told his audience to “never go full Tucker,” adding, “Carlson isn't a secret Nazi, he's just ideologically captured and not very bright. A typical podcaster, in other words.”
Right-wing host Steven Crowder said “people like” Carlson and Theo Von “who didn't condemn [Zohran] Mamdani's actions enough” are “either useful idiots or they are acting malevolently themselves.”
Ahead of midterms, a party divided
YouTube host Benny Johnson lashed out at Karl Rove and the “Lincoln Project guys,” calling them “a bunch of retards.” Johnson said they “couldn’t run a Somali daycare in Minneapolis” and concluded his rant by labeling them “left-wing activists.”
On the podcast of David Freiheit, known online as Viva Frei, failed Florida gubernatorial candidate James Fishback complained that his “real competitor” in the Republican primary election was Fox News. Fishback argued Fox spent “every single day attacking our campaign, but also attacking the arguments, undermining the arguments about affordability when life has gotten less affordable in my state — Fox News of course saying that it hasn’t.”
Nick Fuentes feuds with other extremists
White nationalist Nick Fuentes released a broadside of sexism against “every single female in the conservative movement,” specifically naming Candace Owens and Kim Iversen. Fuentes bemoaned that “every single one of them are closeted feminists.”
White nationalist Stew Peters and conspiracy theorist Jake Shields mocked Fuentes and a variety of other right-wing media figures. Referencing alleged leaked messages, Shields called Fuentes “pathetic” for wanting to earn Tim Pool’s approval, saying, “It's weird how these guys like Nick want to be liked so bad by the people that hate him.” Peters responded by arguing many figures in the media space are “self-serving” or “masochists, like somebody like Andrew Wilson who just has a fetish for being embarrassed and he just loves pain.”
Candace Owens: “Conspiracy theorist, nut, and evil”
Appearing on Theo Von’s podcast, Candace Owens said it was “hard for me to imagine a scenario where no one” involved with Turning Point USA knew Charlie Kirk would be killed, agreeing with the host that “you’d have to have an insider.”
Ben Shapiro ridiculed Owens for the “somewhat substantiated internet rumor about her sexual proclivities,” adding that “the way that she decided that she was going to redeem herself was by appearing with chief mascot of the retardosphere Theo Von, one of the dumbest people to walk planet Earth.” Shapiro further called Owens a "conspiracy theorist, nut, and evil human being,” adding that Von is “going along with” her attacks on Turning Point USA and Erika Kirk “because either he is legitimately a retard or because he's a bad person or both.”
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