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BRIN, David, The Future, Future Salon, Feb 5, 2014

<p class="MsoNormal" >BRIN, David, The Future, Future Salon, Feb 5, 2014</p>

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Existence&nbsp;&nbsp; new book by David Brin&nbsp; exclt trailer....</p>

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we are now getting&nbsp; water for free from the sky! DB jokes.</p>

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4 days&nbsp; at NASA:&nbsp; Innovative and Advanced Concepts Group:</p>

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eg&nbsp;&nbsp; giant inflatable telescopes... the fringe of the fringe.</p>

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calamity struck in 1914...&nbsp; idiot grandsons of Q Victoria&nbsp; destroyed hope.</p>

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the middle class in 1913 ws getting refrig, cars, electricity, gas cooking&nbsp; and they were hearing abt a future of flying thru the sky.</p>

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1914:&nbsp; confidence crashed.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; read sci fi&nbsp; John Jacob Aster wrote a sci fi story and died on Titanic.</p>

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in 1914 we started a downward spiral in war from which we emerged in 1943.</p>

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4/5s of kids&nbsp; can turn off a light switch&nbsp; and go toschool;&nbsp; elecgrcity for a couple of light bulbs.</p>

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avg per capita rate of human violence has gone down every decade.</p>

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provokes&nbsp; an urge to correct pverty and violence...&nbsp; now...</p>

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circle of compassion:&nbsp; who is "fair game" to kill.</p>

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eg one Sioux family would kill another&nbsp; (when buffalo got scarce);</p>

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satiation and lack of fear push down the boundaries of inclusion...

(abundance&nbsp; makes room for wider circle of compassion)</p>

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we have a window of opportunity to exapnd this whole process...

why no tinclude the whole planet in our calculations;

we are the first gen to worry abt the planet and its resources;</p>

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(in audience:&nbsp; Monica A,&nbsp; Stan Knutson qv (working at SAP)m Miguel Azi.,&nbsp; Steve O, John Smart,)</p>

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the R and L political axis&nbsp; should be lobotimized&nbsp; (for no other reason that that it's French, he jokes)</p>

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self-righteous indignation... the worst and ;;most&nbsp; damaging addiction... and it is destroying the USA.

Something will replace Pax Americana.</p>

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The RIGHT... there is no need to make progress; there is NOT a world to save;</p>

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if something&nbsp; horrible happens, the disparity could come to a fast end;</p>

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* he starts slides</p>

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can we avoid old failure modeslll eg COLLAPSE&nbsp; by Jard Diamond...</p>

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in most civilizaitons:&nbsp; golden ages were in the past&nbsp; and we fell because of

hubris....

but now we look forward to a golden age in the future...</p>

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1983... he called it The Great Silence....</p>

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Drake Equation:&nbsp; intelligence may be rare;

he's looked at haundreds of explanations for Fermi Paradox...</p>

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but maybe it is L - life space of civ.&nbsp;&nbsp; perhaps&nbsp; TRAPS await us in the future....

Teller:&nbsp;&nbsp; this will chasten us... this will make us&nbsp; avoid war...

(we were scheduled for global annihil in the seventies but it did not happen!

the mushroom cloud alters our perception)

1968... Kennedy death&nbsp; etc.&nbsp; terrib le year... but then&nbsp; EArthrise from the Moon;</p>

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slide:&nbsp; progress in visualization, memory, attention</p>

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slide&nbsp; disruptive techs providek crises of progress:

1400 to 1600&nbsp; printing, glass lens, perspective</p>

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1700s:&nbsp; mass literacy, printed illustraiton

science, democracy</p>

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19th century:&nbsp; mass education , public libraries, photogr, cinema, global connection</p>

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20th cent&nbsp; memory (computing, DB); TV; abstraction</p>

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21st centry:&nbsp; knowledge mesh;

omni-v eillance&nbsp; super-vision

visualizaiton, simulation and gaimg&nbsp; (super-mmersion)</p>

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we are tepidly being dragge dinto saving gthe world...</p>

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we never refuse new tools&nbsp; (despite,&nbsp; condemnations)</p>

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is it COLLAPSE&nbsp; jard diamond...&nbsp; (but he preaches renunciation)</p>

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how abt scary success.. (ie the Singularity</p>

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but will it be good or bad...&nbsp; (but we have Vernor Vinge in San Diego... he jokes)</p>

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John Smart... he says... thinks it will happen in 30-40 years...</p>

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Goldman Sachs....&nbsp;&nbsp; stock trading...&nbsp; secret, voracious, ferocious and parasitic... TRADING!

(more money than&nbsp; DoD)</p>

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humans:&nbsp; long&nbsp; childhoods...&nbsp; suppose you must...</p>

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natural human socila order:&nbsp; lords vs peasants</p>

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the default pyramidal society</p>

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the classic stuc in 95% of societies....</p>

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Adam Smith&nbsp; KNEW&nbsp; who the enemy was... feudal lords...</p>

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verssu&nbsp; a dynmaic creative middle class and positive sum games...</p>

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we have the delusion that we can erase pverty....</p>

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want the whole playing diamond to rise... the middle class (no dynastic wealth)</p>

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The Transparent Society...</p>

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duirng next ten years... it will be decided... Big Brother vs Open Society...</p>

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Can you blind the mighty?&nbsp; NO!&nbsp; (cannot poke out the eyes of a baboon in the zoo... he won't let you do it.)</p>

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Tell the Mighty.. Strip!&nbsp;&nbsp; essenc eof sousveilaance...&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

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Exorarum Concept&nbsp; he mentions&nbsp; Arthur C Clark&nbsp; Imagination&nbsp; (at UCSD)&nbsp; a new program...</p>

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We'll make our OWN diversity... difft kinds of humans...

we find wome way to be difft and interesting...</p>

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villain expresses intolerance in some way&nbsp; (if he kicks a dog... he's gonna die)</p>

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main characgter ahs some&nbsp; eccentrcity... and some authority figure has to be confronted....</p>

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all your neighbors are sheep...&nbsp; ()</p>

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we will bring in AI&nbsp; to make things interesting...</p>

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foresight?&nbsp; the "lamps on our brows"</p>

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another thing humans do well... RESILIENCE...</p>

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Moses:&nbsp; lamps on our brows...&nbsp; (closest word was HORNs!&nbsp; usu. depicted as HORNs on the head of Moses...

no.. it was Lamps on our brows)</p>

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every generaiton of Americans has to prove that we have the guts to&nbsp; survive and win...</p>

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most important concept tonite:&nbsp; positive sum game! everybody wins....</p>

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Drakes Eqn:&nbsp;&nbsp; does a filter await us..</p>

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Spiderman... saves New Yorkers&nbsp; until (in the last scene) New Yorkers&nbsp; save Spiderman....</p>

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Athenian democaray of Pericles... when it fell... it was crushed ofr 2000 years....</p>

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what will happen if we fail... if the lords succeed and crush the masses...

they may have the power to kill it for 10,000 years...</p>

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what if WE are the ones whoa re both fated and duty bound to light up the galaxy?</p>

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)good luck..... but he says.. Buck Up!&nbsp; carry the burden!&nbsp; it is an important responsibility.. we MUST succeed!</p>

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Q1:&nbsp;&nbsp; what makes you think Big Brother will be locked in forever?

A: lie detector&nbsp; technology... once u perfect that... then just interrogate&nbsp; the rebels and lock them up

A he hates&nbsp; the "resurrection of the Civil War"&nbsp;&nbsp; the right wing oligarchs are trying to stymie every single American institution.</p>

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but (on the +&nbsp; side) are the billionaries who like the fact that they have lots of middle class engineers to hire.

they want their taxe sincreased&nbsp; and they like the diamond shaped culture...</p>

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tools of oppressiona re growing close...</p>

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Q&nbsp; what would you DO to fend off Big Brother

A&nbsp;&nbsp; we need to be militatnt abotu SEEING... watching the watchmen!&nbsp;</p>

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the only recourse you ahve when you confront authority is the TRUTH... taking cellphones...

soembody else caught it on his cell phone (cop smashing cell phone)</p>

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Q&nbsp; can we make + change...

Kevin Kelly... conversaiton tonight...&nbsp; can amateurs do it...</p>

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comment:&nbsp; we were obsessed with narrow zones of specializaiton... massive volumes of&nbsp; Index Chemica...</p>

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but nowadays we have Google....</p>

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I am&nbsp; accuse dof being a cuckoo optimist...

but Iknow how rotten human beings are...&nbsp; savagery and viciousness...

but to live in California now with healthy kids....</p>

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Q suppose&nbsp; intelligence is maxed out&nbsp; and how about&nbsp; network effects (people netowkred together, eg at Unviersities)</p>

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Q&nbsp; peer to peer commodity&nbsp; (to assure some aabundance)...</p>

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4 arenas of creativity:&nbsp; competition&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

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but to liberals&nbsp; (as opposed to leftists)&nbsp; they want FAIR compeititon;</p>

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markets, democracy, science and law courts....&nbsp; the more open it is... the better they work;</p>

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ultimate dream of Marxists and Libertarians if the same....&nbsp; with a faint govt&nbsp; to keep things fair...</p>

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we point out each others mistakes....&nbsp; your enemies will point out your mistakes for free.</p>

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aud comment:&nbsp; your PEER network is hugely important for RESILIENCE... who will help you come back...</p>

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he loves his cellphone....&nbsp; peer to peer text capability if no cell tower

wants QCOM to do that.......&nbsp; we would hold together even if</p>

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The Postman... movie....</p>

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Deep dialog....</p>

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disputation arena&nbsp;&nbsp; must have that&nbsp; on the internet...</p>

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high error rate in markets but lots of creativity....</p>

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call to confrontation that cannot be refused... the market competition....</p>

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the internet is new....&nbsp; David really wants&nbsp; good ideas to prosper rather than being drowned out by crap....</p>

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Q&nbsp; how do u deal with&nbsp; all those cat videos and distractabiliyt?</p>

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