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DOMBECK, Daniel, Spatial Navigation Grid and Place Cells, Northwestern, Oct 22, 2015

<p class="MsoNormal" >DOMBECK, Daniel, Spatial Navigation Grid and Place Cells, Northwestern, Oct 22, 2015</p>

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(This was one of my favorite talks of the quarter; &nbsp;Dan images not only spiking in whole&nbsp;

HC CA1 cells, but also in their dendrites (the "regenerating events.")

(If you're a beginner, look at his video on YouTube.)</p>

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how are these representations (of place fields) &nbsp;formed and maintained in time&nbsp; (studied in his lab)</p>

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grid cells&nbsp; (ERC= entorhinal cortex)

place cells in HC&nbsp; (downstream from ERC</p>

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Nobel Prizes just awarded for this work.</p>

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<b>HC place cells, spatial memory and Hebbian Potentiation.</b>..</p>

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precision of place fields&nbsp;&nbsp; (means SMALL in relation to the site that the animal is in.)</p>

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and stability of place fields&nbsp; (over time)</p>

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NMDA1 CA1-KO in mouse&nbsp; leads to NMDA block&nbsp; and leads to imprecise place fields

and unstable place fields...</p>

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and is this relevant to animal navigation...yes...</p>

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eg cannot find exit point of a circular maze...

they are impaired on spatial memory tasks&nbsp;&nbsp; as per&nbsp; Tsient in 1996.</p>

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so,&nbsp;&nbsp; what are the NMDA receptors actually doing in these tasks.... <b>coincidence detectors...</b></p>

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you need both&nbsp; <b>glutamate release and strong depolar at post synaptic</b> depolarization

&nbsp;(and calcium entry postsynaptically)</p>

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backpropagating APs&nbsp; in Magee and Josnston in 1997</p>

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and dendritic spikes in Golding 2002...</p>

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global plasticity signal... (backprop&nbsp; the signal thru the entire arbor</p>

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and also differential plasticity signals&nbsp; (in only some dendrites....</p>

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(how do these regenerative events mediate place cells mechanisms.)&nbsp;&nbsp; his lab's focus.</p>

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branch spikes as regenerative events...</p>

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we cannot&nbsp; disting.&nbsp; backprop&nbsp; fromm spiking events in dendrites.</p>

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he was post doc with David Tank....(and uses similar rodent set ups)</p>

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<b>mouse on styrofoam ball...&nbsp; </b>say, suspended on air...

looks at&nbsp;&nbsp; VR screen...</p>

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1934&nbsp; Uexall also had this idea...</p>

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shows <b>great YouTube</b>...(of mouse in VR maze on Tank ball)</p>

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Two-photon imaging of place cell soma and dendrities.</p>

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navigation system is being activated in these animals in robust way...</p>

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mouse looks at huge TV in front of him...&nbsp;&nbsp; get this&nbsp; YOuTube.</p>

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uses&nbsp; GCAMP6f... uses 2 photon imaging of place cells soma and dendrities.</p>

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calcium transients are due&nbsp; to&nbsp; action potentials&nbsp; = APs</p>

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can use electic lens to change focal plane;&nbsp;&nbsp; can change Z</p>

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we can hop back and forth from cell to spines.</p>

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compares shaft transiet to spine transiet&nbsp; in a regenerative branch spike event.</p>

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shaft&nbsp; spike (in&nbsp; calcium image ) might be use to&nbsp; 3 backprop spikes.</p>

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sees huge spine&nbsp;&nbsp; transients&nbsp; (when&nbsp;&nbsp; get glutamate&nbsp; release and simult.&nbsp;

&nbsp;backprop&nbsp; regen event.(regenerative&nbsp; branch event)</p>

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we can <b>disting&nbsp;&nbsp; "regenerative events&nbsp; in the dendritic arbor" and&nbsp; spike events.</b>&nbsp; key point.</p>

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he shows that can get these separately in a firing&nbsp; place cell..

. ie&nbsp;&nbsp; the surrounding dendrites need not be having regenerative events.</p>

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records from ONE cell&nbsp;&nbsp; at place field 1 and place field 2.</p>

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he answers me.... two traversals&nbsp; with difft responses of&nbsp;&nbsp; one place cell...</p>

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across&nbsp; off&nbsp; place cells the fire about 53% of time with dendritic regen events&nbsp; (alll branches)</p>

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21%&nbsp;&nbsp; some branches&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nbsp;&nbsp; 27%&nbsp; soma only of place cell but NO regen events&nbsp; in the basal arbor)&nbsp;&nbsp; why?&nbsp; mystery...</p>

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who... what are&nbsp;&nbsp; these mechanisms&nbsp; underlying....</p>

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branch alone ... might be due to dendr spike.</p>

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soma&nbsp; alone&nbsp; might be&nbsp;&nbsp; perisomatic inhibiton or Na channel stuff.</p>

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everything in dendr arbor is prob&nbsp; dendritic spikes rather than&nbsp;&nbsp; backprob from soma.</p>

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can also rarely get&nbsp; no&nbsp; spike in soma&nbsp; but get&nbsp;&nbsp; spikes in all dendrites&nbsp; (not due to backprop)</p>

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summary...</p>

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1)&nbsp; dissoc btwn somatic and dendr regen events...</p>

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2)&nbsp;&nbsp; branch spike prevalence varies within a cell's place field

&nbsp;from traversal (of the maze) to traversal.</p>

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3)&nbsp; avg branch spike preval varies widely across place cells...</p>

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4)&nbsp; the prevalence of&nbsp; branch spiking predicts the precision and stability of place fields.</p>

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shows&nbsp; histogram...</p>

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shows that&nbsp; v sharp, distinct place&nbsp; field&nbsp; is accomp by&nbsp; v precise&nbsp; high average branch spike prevaence.</p>

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and vice versa.</p>

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see sheffield and Dombeck in 2015 in Nature&nbsp; (get this!)</p>

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and now to stability....

compare day 1 and day 2...</p>

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yes... same finding... those cell switch high avg branch spike precision

&nbsp;are more reproducible over&nbsp; day 1 to day 2.</p>

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(as opposed to&nbsp;&nbsp; somatic place field firing... which is NOT as predicitve )</p>

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now... on to their conceptual model....</p>

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regenerative events in dendrities...&nbsp; (poss windows for plasticity... BUT

doesn't contradict the notion of&nbsp;&nbsp; incr stability due to more&nbsp; regen events in the dendrities)</p>

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how do precise and&nbsp; stable place fields develop?usual mode</p>

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mouse traverse maze</p>

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and multiple CA3&nbsp; place fields fire and converge onto a single CA1 place cell&nbsp; which fires&nbsp; at that place&nbsp; (due to multiple inputs from the CA3 cells...</p>

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so we see lots of CA2 firing of that cells&nbsp; soma at&nbsp; place #1&nbsp; but not at place #2.</p>

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(usual model)</p>

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and a few traversals later...</p>

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get&nbsp; somatic potentiation to increase the&nbsp; firing at&nbsp; place #1&nbsp; (of the soma on place field CA1 place cell.</p>

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and many traversals later...&nbsp; due to learning&nbsp; (reinforement, etc) and&nbsp; synaptic connex&nbsp; then

get&nbsp; more distinct&nbsp; and precise place field&nbsp; (due to a + feedback effect)

so its gets more precise and more stable...</p>

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as in McHugh 96 and Barry Burgess in 2007...</p>

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similarly for the weak cells that aren't espec correlated... their connex just fade away</p>

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testing modes predictions...</p>

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summary:</p>

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1)&nbsp;&nbsp; regenerative events occur in place dell dendrites during place field firing</p>

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2)&nbsp; branch spiking is hihgly spatiotemp variable from place field to place field and across trversal/</p>

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we propose that branch spike to lead to place field learning.</p>

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* new topic new project</p>

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DOPAMIC SIGNALING</p>

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in the midbrain...</p>

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SNC&nbsp; subst&nbsp; nigra pars compacta&nbsp; SMc&nbsp;&nbsp; and also the

VTA ventral tegm area.&nbsp; in midbrain&nbsp; but

both project to the STRIATUM...</p>

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post doc convinced his to go to&nbsp; SNC&nbsp; (since its well know)</p>

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straitum...&nbsp; habit learning,&nbsp; reqrde based mtor learning... etc.</p>

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when&nbsp; neurons in SNc die... cannot start mvmts&nbsp; (as in Parkinsons)</p>

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Schultz and Romo in 1990 would reward signaling in monkeys....

had to reach up into box to get food pellet..</p>

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see single unit record and EMG&nbsp; (when arm&nbsp; begining to&nbsp; do the reach)</p>

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they see burst when monkey finds food peller in the box...</p>

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reward prediciton error signal... DA is involved&nbsp; (and also in learning movement ...</p>

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when at rest&nbsp; DA&nbsp; neurons jsut slowing ticking away... perhhaps&nbsp; "mvmt permssive"</p>

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when unexpected&nbsp;&nbsp; reward +>&nbsp; get&nbsp; phasic DA burst due to unpredicted reward&nbsp; (as oppose dto the slow tonic release)</p>

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expt:&nbsp; label SNc/ VTA neuros wit AAV1-folex&nbsp; GCAMO6f...</p>

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put&nbsp; 2PM&nbsp; over&nbsp; striatum of mouse.</p>

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see many&nbsp;&nbsp; neurons&nbsp; coming into stratum&nbsp; (a tangled web of axons coming from&nbsp;&nbsp; midbrain...&nbsp;

indicating&nbsp; the tonic&nbsp; release of DA.&nbsp; (random spikng)</p>

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but&nbsp; then he'd give reward&nbsp;&nbsp; to mice and&nbsp; got no change... WT hell???</p>

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but did see a few&nbsp; axons they worked as expected&nbsp; (lit up with rewards)</p>

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so&nbsp; is the phasic signaling due to?&nbsp; answer is locomotionl</p>

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mice run a lot...&nbsp;&nbsp; they are time-locked to the accel on the Tank treadmill.</p>

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<b>fast phasic&nbsp; motor signal causes DA release in SNc and VTA...&nbsp;</b>

seems purely motor related&nbsp; (surprise!)</p>

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but is this just correlational or causal&nbsp; in relation to movement?</p>

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next&nbsp;&nbsp; stim&nbsp; stiatum iwth blue lase&nbsp; after AAV-floxed&nbsp; CHR2 yfp.</p>

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<b>DA&nbsp; signaling can drive locomotion </b>and can entrain&nbsp; locomotion frequency...</p>

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we can cause mvmt.</p>

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<b>seems that phasic DA signaling&nbsp; can&nbsp; drive motion</b>.</p>

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dorsal&nbsp; straitum... gets&nbsp;&nbsp; motor signaling</p>

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and vetnral striatum&nbsp; only... has&nbsp; reward signalling...</p>

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fast phasic DA&nbsp; signaling locked to accel in the DORSAL striatum...</p>

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the reward signaling seems to the in VENTRAL&nbsp; striatum...</p>

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there is a gradient from&nbsp; (top tob ottom... from&nbsp;&nbsp; dorsum to ventral sruface)</p>

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Q... and answer...&nbsp; lack of DA&nbsp; in dorsal stra. seems to predict whether the dynamic will STOP ...</p>

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