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Solving Polynomial Equations 12: Polygonal subdivision with triangles AND quadrilaterals

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Since the Catalan numbers count subdivisions of a polygon into triangles, and the Fuss or Fuss-Catalan numbers count subdivisions into quadratilerals, we have logically decided to try to see if the elements in our "solving general cubic equations" array correspond to subdivision of a polygon into triangles AND quadrilaterals.

What could be more natural and reasonable? But is mathematics itself natural and reasonable? Let's see, by rolling up our sleaves and using our geometric skills, along with our sense of symmetry, to do some elementary, but interesting counting!

This is part of our investigation of general polynomial equations and how to solve them looking at this classical problem with some fresh eyes.

Also a small correction, in that 0th column the Catalan number after 14 is 42 (not 15!)

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hello everyone i'm norman wahlberger

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and thank you for joining me on this

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adventure

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where we're exploring solving polynomial

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equations in a novel way

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we have created a interesting array

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uh which are essentially coefficients of

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some

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double power series or rational function

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series

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that are associated with the cubic

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equation of a general kind

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and here are the um

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are the coefficients that um we have at

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least in the top

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corner and what we'd like to do is

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explain this and in our last

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video we suggested that because we know

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that this

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first this

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first column here is associated

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to the catalan story and that this first

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row

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is associated to the fuse catalan

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story so let's just write that down so

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that's the catalan

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series and this one here are the fuse

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catalan numbers

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and the catalan story

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is basically involving the number of

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divisions of a polygon

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into triangles into triangles

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while this one is number of

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divisions into quadrilaterals

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okay now that has made us at least have

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the initial guess

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and uh change color here

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our guess is that

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maybe the general

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entry

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counts

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number of divisions

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of a polygon

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into triangles

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and quadrilaterals

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maybe okay and that's what we would like

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to explore today so we would like to

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do some counting and see if we can get

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some of these

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numbers okay so maybe a first

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place to start with would be to try to

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clarify what the sizes of the polygons

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that

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are going to be appearing here so if we

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go back up here

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then if we go down the first column

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the polygons involved are

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well this is a this one here is a

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triangle

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and then this one here is a

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quadrilateral and this one here is a

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pentagon

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one two three four five etcetera so

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they're going down by one as we go in

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that direction

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while in the fuse catalan story

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what we've got here um this one

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represents uh

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subdivision of a quadrilateral

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and this 3 represents subdivision of a

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hexagon

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and the 12 subdivision into an octagon

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eight sides so kind of going up by two

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as we proceed in this direction okay

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and why is that well like let's let's

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say we're interested in

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trying to explain this five here right

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this five is going to be um

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counting the number of ways of

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subdividing

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a polygon where we start maybe with the

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triangle and go up by

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two or we start with the quadrilateral

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and go

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up by one okay so that five corresponds

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to the five let's say the five

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should correspond to subdivisions

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of a pentagon

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and more generally if we kind of make a

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little table here

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um corresponding to the table that i

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have up here

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um right here we should have a two gun

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and then there was a

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four gun and the sixth gun and eight

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gone and ten gone so on

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while the catalan story went down by one

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two three four

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fives and so on so correspondingly um

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the entries should be five six seven

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going down by one as we add a triangle

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because if you have some polygon

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and you add a triangle like that one

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there's a new triangle

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then what you've done is you've

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increased the number of vertices by one

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okay but on the other hand if you have a

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polygon and you

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add a quadrilateral like that one there

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then you increased the number of

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vertices by two

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so if we go along the rows we should get

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three five seven nine

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eleven go down the column six seven

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eight nine

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go along the rows four six eight ten

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twelve etcetera

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okay so our aim today is to try to see

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if

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um we can count the number of ways of

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subdividing

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these polygons

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subdivide we're going to subdivide them

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into certain number of triangles

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and a certain number of quadrilaterals

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okay

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and hopefully we will end up getting

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these numbers

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up here all right so the great place to

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start is with this five so let's say

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five that corresponds to a pentagon so

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there's a pentagon

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and i might draw it that way i'm going

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to

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put my polygons in a certain fashion

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here

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um so that the the top

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is kind of flat that's maybe like a

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distinguished uh

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top okay how many ways can we subdivide

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this into

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a triangle and a quadrilateral well

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we've already talked about that

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so there's

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five ways one corresponding that line

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another one say corresponding to that

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line

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another one corresponding to

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that line and another one corresponding

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to

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that line and one more

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which one do we have we've got anime

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from there maybe

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here okay so there are five ways

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and that

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explains our five and we've already

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talked about that

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okay so what's the next simplest number

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to work on

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let's try to go for this 21

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which would be

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corresponding to this six down here

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we're going to subdivide a hexagon

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into one quadrilateral and

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two triangles okay back to blue

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okay so we've got a hexagon

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and we want to think about

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subdividing it into two triangles and

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one quadrilateral

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okay um well let's count how many ways

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we can do this

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so maybe we can choose a vertex and from

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that vertex we could

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peel off a triangle on sort of either

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side

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right so there's a triangle right there

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there's another triangle there and then

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what remains is is uh

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is our quadrilateral okay and

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how many ways are there doing this well

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there's

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six possible ways of doing that because

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it all depends on the choice of this

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initial vertex once we've chosen that

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initial vertex

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well then the the other two lines are

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determined so for example uh

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another one would be

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let's say we chose that vertex and then

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we'd have lines emanating like this

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there would be our two triangles and

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there would be our

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quadrilateral and uh that would be

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another example

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okay so there's six like that but

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there's probably more

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okay so let's see how many more can we

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figure out

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so we're gonna have to stick the two

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triangles in another way of

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choosing a triangle would be uh or maybe

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two triangles

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is to um say

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uh choose two adjacent triangles like

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this so there's a triangle and there's a

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triangle

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and then there's a quadrilateral sort of

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opposite it

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okay so

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we have rotational invariance that's the

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basic um

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advantage that we have here with this

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geometrical approach is that

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once we have one configuration we can

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rotate it just like we did in the

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previous case right to get other

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configurations

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so if we rotate this one we have to ask

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well how many different

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configurations can we get with the

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rotations and you see that this picture

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here is determined essentially by

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say this side here this this is a unique

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side it's sort of the free

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side of this quadrilateral centered

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there and if we determine such a

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aside then there's going to be six

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possible ways so there's six possible

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ways

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of arranging things like that

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how many other ways are there well

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let's see uh

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we could make the triangles like this

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on either side of a kind of a central

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rectangle

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now such

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a configuration is

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we can still rotate it okay but once we

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rotate it by 180 degrees we'll

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get back the same rotation in the same

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configuration sort

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so that means that there's actually not

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going to be six possible

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rotations of this there's only going to

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be three of them

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okay one way of thinking about that is

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it's determined by this axis

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like that kind of an axis that

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determines it and there are these other

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opposite

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axes like this three different axes so

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three different possible configurations

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that look like this

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how many do we have so far we have uh

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six plus six plus three that's

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  1. we need six more um if we're going

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to get 21 which is what we're sort of

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aiming for but let's let's

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um not uh think about that too much

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let's just think about trying to get all

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of them

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so what other kinds of configurations

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how else can we put in these um

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these triangles um

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put them on those sides there we put two

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together like this

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oh actually you see you see this this

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configuration here

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it has actually a kind of a mirror kind

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of thing right

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so suppose i look at this hexagon

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again and still look at this as our

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quadrilateral

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um but instead of subdividing the other

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quadrilateral with a

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diagonal line the way we just did we

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could just do it this way

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okay so we have two triangles like this

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so there's going to be also six ways of

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doing that because we can rotate

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uh this one then again it's also

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determined by this sort of

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special edge here and we can rotate it

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in all of six ways and

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these six are going to be different from

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the previous six so these are these two

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are gonna be different kinds because the

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the nature of the

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uh dividing the line is gonna be

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different

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so how many do we have now we have 6

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plus 6 plus 6 that's 18

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plus 3 is 21. hmm

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that's good are there any others

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well i don't think there are i think

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this is it the total

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equals 21.

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so we can go back up to our number and

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we can take that one off

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i think we convinced ourselves that

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there are 21 ways

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of subdividing a hexagon into

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one quadrilateral and two triangles

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okay the next one that's the easiest

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probably this one here

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  1. what's that that's corresponding to

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two quadrilaterals and one triangle

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okay just one triangle so that's the

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next one and that corresponds to

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this one here that's a 7-gon

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all right so let's look at a 7-gon

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okay so we'll put the top there and we

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have

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one two three

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four five six okay there's seven gone

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and what we want to do we want to

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uh basically subdivide this

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into one triangle and

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two quadrilaterals i might make a note

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of that over here one triangle and two

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quadrilaterals that's our aim

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okay so um well

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maybe maybe we could start with a

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triangle which is sort of like a

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boundary triangle there's there's a

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triangle

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okay and then we have

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what's left is a hexagon that we need to

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subdivide

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into two quadrilaterals

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okay so that's a bit familiar because

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this number

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here

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is three corresponds to the number of

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ways of dividing a

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hexagon into uh two

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quadrilaterals okay so let me just

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convince myself that so if we here's a

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hexagon here

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remaining down here and we need to

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subdivide it into two quadrilaterals so

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you know we could do that

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in um a number of ways like basically

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sort of like using it there's a diagonal

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okay that subdivises into two pieces

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and there's going to be three of those

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and then this defining vertex here which

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sort of positions the external triangle

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can be rotated

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around in six ways so it looks to me

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like there's three times six

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which is eighteen possible ways of um

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doing that where the triangle that we've

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got is one of these external triangles

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that has two

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sides the dark sternum

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okay what about let's maybe go over here

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one two three four five six seven

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there's another seven got

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now we have to put our triangle in a

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different spot so it's not

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going to have two sides

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external maybe just one side external so

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let's put the external side right here

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okay so there's going to be an external

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slide there

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so the other the other pieces have to be

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quadrilaterals so i have to have four

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vertices one two three four so that

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would be one possibility and

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one two three that would be another

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possibility

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like that would be really the only

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possibility right if we were going to

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also no that didn't have um

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no that's not that wasn't right pardon

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me let me reverse that

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um yeah

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i should have gone like this because i

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said we're going to use this as an

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external um

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side okay so that's the subdivision if

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we're going to use this as an external

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side

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then the other vertex of the triangle

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has to be the opposite one

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in order that we're going to have two

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quadrilaterals on either side

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so how many ways are there doing that

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well it all depends on the initial

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uh side right this we can rotate that

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around in

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seven different ways so i guess seven

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okay um that's when there's

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one external

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side of the triangle okay what if

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there's no

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external sides of the triangle

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so maybe it starts here

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so then there's got to be a

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quadrilateral on one side one two

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three four maybe like that

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um one two three

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well i don't know if we can do that

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right

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ah i know what my mistake is i made a

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mistake didn't i

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which you probably noticed you're

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probably wondering how long it'll take

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him to figure this out

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okay so um when i was counting this one

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here this was not quite right was it

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because i said there was there were

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three ways of subdividing this external

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hexagon that was correct but there's not

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six ways of rotating this round because

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we're in a seven

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gone now okay there's seven ways okay

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that should be three times seven that

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should be twenty-one

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now it makes sense now our total is 21

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plus

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7 is 28. okay

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yeah okay someone makes mistakes

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counting wants to check it has to go

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back let's do it again no problem

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okay so now we're happy we have

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verified this one right here this is 28.

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we're kind of on the right track okay

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but uh we're still not entirely

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convinced we don't want to bet a lot of

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money on this

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at this stage okay but let's carry on

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this next one would probably be this 84.

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that 84 represents let's see

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one quadrilateral and

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three triangles and it corresponds to

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subdivision of a

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another septagon okay so now we're

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looking at the seventh gone again but

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now we have

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one quadrilateral and three triangles

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hopefully we're going to get what was it

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80

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84 okay

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so i'm gonna get getting some practice

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with geometry sort of symmetries

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and also some basic accounting and lots

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of opportunities for making mistakes and

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then correcting them

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okay so let's draw our seven gone again

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and now we need one quadrilateral and

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three triangles so maybe we can

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concentrate on our

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quadrilateral okay so

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how can we stick that quadrilaterally in

19:10

various places well

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let's say we're going to use these four

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points

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okay there's a quadrilateral

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and then we have

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a one two three four five a five gone

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left over that we need to

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subdivide into three triangles

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okay um that we already know

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because that's that five there

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that five is the number of ways of

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subdividing

19:44

a pentagon into three triangles okay

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so the number of ways of doing this well

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there's gonna be

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five corresponding the number of ways of

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subdividing this pentagon for example

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like this one here and then that one

19:57

there so there will be

19:59

three triangles and there's our

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quadrilateral

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and uh so five ways of subdividing that

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exterior pentagon and then

20:07

how many ways of rotating this

20:10

first quadrilateral round well the

20:12

quadrilaterals determine say by that

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side there

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which centers it and so there's going to

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be seven of those

20:17

so 35 possible ways of

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sticking the quadrilateral in that way

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um okay that's good what about another

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way

20:31

three four five six seven how about if

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we

20:36

put in the quadrilateral like this

20:40

okay so there's the quadrilateral now

20:42

there's a triangle on the

20:44

one side and then we have two possible

20:46

ways of of

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subdividing the external quadrilateral

20:51

into into two more triangles

20:53

corresponding to two possible diagonals

20:55

okay so there's

20:57

two ways of doing that and

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how many ways of sticking in that first

21:03

quadrilateral

21:04

well it was determined by um

21:08

by you know these two sides here

21:13

um well maybe we could say uh

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it's that configuration is determined by

21:19

this this vertex here because if we know

21:20

this vertex then we know that external

21:22

triangle right there

21:23

which determines the quadrilateral and

21:25

then there's two ways of filling the

21:26

rest out

21:27

so i would say there's 2 times 7 which

21:29

is 14

21:31

configurations that look like that

21:39

how about if we if we put in the the

21:42

quadrilateral

21:43

is slightly in a slightly sort of

21:45

different position so we still have this

21:47

as a side

21:48

but we decide to go down like this okay

21:52

then that'll be the external triangle

21:54

then we'll have to subdivide one of

21:55

these things

21:56

well i think you can see that that's

21:58

going to be the same as what we have

22:00

just rotate one of these around we're

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going to get one of these

22:03

so this is just the same okay so

22:06

that's not actually going to contribute

22:11

okay what other kinds of ways are there

22:13

of

22:14

putting in a quadrilateral into our

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seven garden well another way

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would be let's see um suppose we

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went like this and

22:28

uh one two

22:33

three four how about this kind of shape

22:36

okay

22:37

it's a little bit different from what we

22:39

had before because now

22:41

there's the three triangles on either

22:43

side

22:45

or on three sides of this quadrilateral

22:50

which is in there so this such a

22:52

configuration is determined by

22:54

that side which determines it and

22:56

there's seven possible ways of rotating

22:57

that around

22:58

so there'll be seven of those

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how many uh do we have so far we've got

23:04

uh numbers of sevens five plus two plus

23:07

one that's eight times

23:08

seven which is 56 we want to get to 84

23:11

which is uh 12. so we need four more

23:16

four more sevens i think okay

23:20

what other possible ways are there one

23:23

two

23:23

three four five six seven

23:28

um well we could have

23:32

maybe a configuration where we take two

23:35

adjacent sides

23:36

forming part of the quadrilateral so

23:38

something like this

23:40

so the quadrilaterals are embedded like

23:42

this where it has

23:44

two external sides which are kind of

23:46

adjacent

23:47

okay there's the quadrilateral

23:50

and then there's going to be a triangle

23:53

on the boundary there and then

23:55

this other thing can be divided in one

23:59

of two ways into

24:01

triangles so

24:04

how many ways altogether of doing that

24:07

kind of thing

24:08

well if we think of starting with this

24:10

vertex this vertex here

24:12

generates those two edges

24:16

and so there's uh we'd rotate that all

24:19

around

24:20

and um rotate that all around

24:25

and for each one of those though there's

24:29

still

24:29

sort of two possible ways of creating

24:31

this this extra diagonal

24:33

because we've got to also have gone this

24:34

way right

24:37

so i think there's times seven times two

24:39

so there's 14 ways there

24:44

but you see there's a kind of a symmetry

24:45

so

24:47

we have to be thinking geometrically

24:49

here so uh

24:50

there's an another variant of that so if

24:52

i choose the same

24:54

two sides i could stick this

24:57

quadrilateral in on this in this fashion

25:00

here sort of leaning to the left instead

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of leaning to the right in some sense

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so now the external triangle is there

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and then we have to subdivide this

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this one here further into two triangles

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so this is a lot like this sort of the

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mirror kind of symmetry

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so there's going to be also 7 times 2

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equals 14 ways

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are there any more are there any more

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well first of all this

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the total so far is 35 plus

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14 plus 7 plus 14

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plus 14 which is 42

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plus um plus 42 that is 84.

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uh before we circle it um are there any

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other ways of

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sticking a quadrilateral

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so if the quadrilateral has one external

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side it was

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uh this is sort of one external side for

25:58

the quadrilateral

25:58

if it has three external sides it's got

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to

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look like this one that's three external

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sides

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um if it has two external sides they can

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be sort of

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separate like like like this one or they

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can be together

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like these two so the only possibility

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is

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could there be a quadrilateral with no

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external sides

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sort of um so like let's say we we we

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just went boundary boundary

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but there's not enough vertices if there

26:30

was an eight gun we could do that but

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there's there's no there's no um way of

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putting in a quadrilateral that has

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sort of four

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sides because there's only going to be

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three triangles that are that are used

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so there's none like this so i think

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this total really is legit

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there's 84. okay that is good so now we

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can tick off

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one more

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okay great so i think we've we've gotten

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our confidence level

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much higher right now i think we're at

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around the 90

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to confidence level maybe even a little

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bit more for optimistic kinds

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but there's still a lot of work to be

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done here right and you can see that

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this job gets more onerous as we get to

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these bigger configurations

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and i think it's a great exercise for

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you okay to start thinking about these

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other ones like how about this 165

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this 180 or this 330 can you actually

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count

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the number of subdivisions of the

27:30

corresponding

27:32

polygons and see if you can get those

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numbers

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uh for the results

27:38

okay obviously if you can't then we need

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to uh

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do something different here you know we

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need to modify this but if you can get

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those

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then that's great and maybe some of you

27:49

will be able to you know go further and

27:51

and do some more accounting so this is

27:54

at a very sort of hands-on level

27:56

we're just experimenting but it's giving

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us a lot of confidence

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we do not have ticks besides these ones

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area but we have we have a fair amount

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of confidence

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so obviously there's still a lot more to

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do but i think we're

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happening in a very good direction here

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because we're we're combining the

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the catalan story with the foose catalan

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story providing a

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larger framework and the reason why

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we're getting this

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is not because we've dreamt it up but

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this is a consequence of our

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investigation into essentially the

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general cubic equation

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so this rich combinatorial situation is

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emerging from this purely algebraic

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investigation

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