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NEW (Christmas 2019). Two ways to support Mathologer Mathologer Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mathologerMathologer PayPal: paypal.me/mathologer (see the Patreon page for details) You've all been indoctrinated into accepting that you cannot divide by zero. Find out about the beautiful mathematics that results when you do it anyway in calculus. Featuring some of the most notorious "forbidden" expressions like 0/0 and 1∞ as well as Apple's Siri and Sir Isaac Newton. In his book “Yearning for the impossible” one my favourite authors John Stillwell says “…mathematics is a story of close encounters with the impossible and all its great discoveries are close encounters with the impossible.” What we talk about in this video and quite a few other Mathologer videos are great examples of these sort of close encounters. For those of you desperate to get hold of the t-shirt check out this link: http://shirt.woot.com/offers/how-natu...Thank you very much to Danil Dmitriev the official Mathologer translator for Russian for his subtitles. Enjoy :)

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Savinsnsn

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Light Core

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Danil Dmitriev

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Daniel Kjærgaard

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Παναγιώτης Πετρίδης

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Antonio Atzeni

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我們不懂Ryan Tavali

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Loïc SauerRenaud Toussaint

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Welcome to another Mathologer video. Today

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i'll talk about these crazy expressions

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here. Now in school they tell you that if you

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don't stay away from these eternal

00:14

damnation awaits. And that's actually a

00:16

pretty good rule to pass on to the

00:18

masses to prevent them from suiciding but

00:21

if you actually stop there a lot of

00:23

modern mathematics is not possible. So

00:26

let me explain this a little bit.

00:28

Alright, so why do they tell tell you that

00:30

you can't divide 3 by 0 or that 0 / 0 is

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undefined?

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Well let's have a look at something that

00:37

nobody has a problem with --- 3/8. So in

00:41

maths 3/8 actually just stands for the

00:44

one and only solution of this simple

00:47

equation there 8 times x is equal to 3.

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Ok, so let's change 8 to a 0 and see what happens.

00:54

Well we are immediately in trouble here because

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no number satisfies this equation.

00:59

The equation will always be 0 is equal to

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3 which is wrong. So it sort of makes

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sense to stay away from something like

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this, right? And so what about 0/0? Well a

01:11

different problem comes up here. Every

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single number actually satisfies this

01:16

equation so there is also trouble.

01:20

Let's stay away from it. So for most

01:22

people that's all they really need to

01:23

know but now if we had stopped there in

01:26

mathematics there would actually be no

01:28

calculus and nobody would know Isaac

01:31

Newton. That would be really sad right?

01:33

Ok, so what's calculus about? Calculus is all

01:36

about derivatives and integrals. Here I

01:40

have drawn a nice function and we want

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to find the derivative of this function

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at a certain value. Now you all know that

01:48

this stuff is incredibly important but

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it has a really simple geometrical

01:53

interpretation. The interpretation is the

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derivative here is just the slope of

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this touching line. Now just reading off

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from the function it's not clear what

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that slope should be. Wow what's easy to

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calculate is actually the slope of a

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cutting line like this. And then

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the idea is that if I move these two points of

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intersection together

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then the more they come together the

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closer the cutting line will be to the

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tangent line and the closer the slopes of

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the cutting lines will be to the slope

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that I'm really interested in.

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Ok now how do I actually calculate the

02:30

slope of the cutting lines?

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Well you can just immediately read off

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what the height here is and what the width is

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and then we get the slope, just height divided by

02:39

width, pretty obvious. But now see

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what happens when i move the two points

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together. Both the height and width

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approach zero, so overall the slope

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approaches this forbidden 0/0. But now

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nothing really terrible happens, right, you

02:56

would expect something terrible to happen

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but nothing terrible happens.We are just

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getting closer and closer to this slope

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of the touching line. That seems a bit

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strange but just remember that equation

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that corresponds to 0/0 has all

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numbers as solutions so what really

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happens here is that we've established

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a context, a very narrow context in which

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0/0 kind of makes sense as one

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particular number and you can see that

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as the context changes we get different

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numbers. So let's have a look at a

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specific example. Let's calculate the

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derivative of x squared at 1/2. Alright we

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have to see here what's the width here and what's the

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height. Width call it w so that gives

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us a second value. Now we evaluate the

03:45

function at these two values. That gives

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us 1/2 squared and 1/2 plus w

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squared. Now the height is of course the

03:53

difference between the two so that one here.

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Expand the top, notice that these two

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things cancel out and you've got the

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height and with the height

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we've got the slope and you can see the

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slope really what does it do at the top

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it goes to 0 at the bottom it goes to 0

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but as long as we staying off 0 we can

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actually cancel the w and what this

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gives us this nice expression here and

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just by looking at that it's completely

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obvious what the limit of this

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expression is as w approaches 0. That's

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the slope we are after.

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This means that the derivative of x

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squared at 1/2 is equal to 1,

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isn't this neat. Now 1/2 was actually not

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very special here. We could have used any

04:37

initial value here and if we did that we

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would find that the derivative of x

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squared is 2x. So once we've got that

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we've got this whole thing under control

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as far as calculus is concerned.

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Alright so we write this like that in

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calculus books and actually if you have

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a really close look you also find that

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the 2 was nothing special. We

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could have done the same thing for 3

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and you should really try this, or 4

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or for 5 or just in general for any

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positive integer, not a big deal. And now

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we just run with the scheme and make up

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a huge table of derivatives for all

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sorts of functions that we are interested

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in. And so you have it in a nutshell

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calculus courtesy of 0/0, pretty neat isn't it.

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So really that apple that hit Newton there at

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some point in time and made him invented

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calculus was definitely a 0/0.

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Before we go on and maybe

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don't believe anything I said so far

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let's just ask our smartphone what 0/0 is.

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So Siri ...

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That's fun but now I also promised you

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all of these guys. It is very important

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to make sense of these and actually it's

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done in a calculus book in the chapter on

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"indeterminate forms" and if you look

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there you find that these slope quotients

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that we had a look at so far are actually

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just a special incarnation of this sort

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of setup. So you have a quotient of two

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functions

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g and h depending on a variable, in this

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case t. And as the variable approaches a

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critical value both g and approach 0.

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Whenever you get something like this

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happening then you say that the quotient

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takes on the indeterminate form 0/0 at

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the critical value and actually just here

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I better say the

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critical value can also be infinity so

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t can also go off to infinity.

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What makes this whole thing

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indeterminate, well, by just looking at the

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information we've got so far it's not a all

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clear what the quotient does as we

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approach the critical value. It could go

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to a specific value, it could go to

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infinity or it could do nothing

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reasonable. On the other hand, you know if

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you were to consider the product you

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don't have to know anything about g and h

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except that they both go to 0 to

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conclude that the product will go to 0

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and even Siri knows about indeterminate.

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So if you ask about any of those strange

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expressions that i showed you Siri will

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tell you they're all indeterminate. So

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let's have a look at an example, 1 to the

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power of infinity. Infinity and

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I really have to say this, in

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elementary calculus never stands for

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anything like a number. It always stands

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for some sort of function or process

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that goes to infinity. The same sort of

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thing here. Both 1 and infinity actually

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stand for functions, the first one

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approaches 1, the second one approaches

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infinity as t goes to a critical value.

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And this is also indeterminate meaning

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that if you don't know exactly what

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you're talking, about which g and which

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h you're talking about, the g to the

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power of h could approach any sort

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of finite value or it could go to

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infinity or it could go anywhere you

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want.

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Ok so here's a really famous example of

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something like this: (1+1/t)t

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So here the critical

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value is actually infinity. So t gets

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bigger and bigger and as t gets bigger and

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bigger this 1/t will approach

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0 and so the whole orange bit will

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approach 1 and of course the exponent

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will approach infinity and it's really

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really important to say that you can't

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do first one limit and then the other

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one. Tt's really the speeds at which one

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expression goes to 1 and the other

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expression goes to infinity that

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determine the behavior of the whole

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expression. In this case it approaches

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this value here, very famous, it's the

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base of the natural logarithm, e, and

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there is a whole video that I've done about

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this indeterminate form. Maybe watch it

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again after you finish with this video.

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And so we have a look at this and you

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think that well to make sense of all of

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these strange expression you have

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to invent a lot of different sorts of

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mathematics. But it actually turns out that

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all of these expressions and that comes

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really comes as a surprise to many many people

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are just 0/0 in disguise. So all of these

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expressions can be reduced to just the

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consideration of 0/0. I just want to show

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you how that works for 1 to the power of

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infinity. So again that just corresponds

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to this. Now this whole thing is equal to

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e ^ .....

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And now we're dealing with a

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logarithm so we can pull the exponent

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in front of the logarithm, like that.

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g goes to 1. Now ln(1) is 0. This means

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that this whole thing here goes to 0.

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h goes to infinity but we can also write

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the whole exponent here in this form

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and then the 1/h actually goes

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to 0. So what we've done now is basically

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reduce 1 to the power of infinity to 0/0 :)

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Pretty neat, right, and you can do this

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for all the other ones. So far, apart from

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this very, very simple x squared example

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we haven't actually figured out any

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other expressions. How do you actually do

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this in practice. What I've tried to push here is

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that the apple that hit Newton was really a

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0/0 apple. The 0/0 apple

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makes calculus but you can also go the

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other way around. Once you've got

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calculus you can actually hit 0/0

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with it.

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How does that work? Well that's a bit of

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magic and its called l'Hopital's Rule. So

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here is an indeterminate form 0/0 at 1.

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So, if we let t go to 1, both

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the top and the bottom go to 0 and

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now how would you actually figure out

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where the whole expression goes to. You

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could try and evaluate this at ts that

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are very close to 1 t,hat's a perfectly

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fine strategy but there's actually a

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really nice shortcut. So what you do is

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you take the top and find the derivative

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and you take the bottom and find the

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derivative. So the derivative of the top

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is 1/t and the

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derivative of the bottom is just 1 and we

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will see what happens to this expression

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as t approaches the critical value.

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Of course nothing terrible happens here at

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all, this just becomes 1, right? And now if

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the functions that we're dealing with

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here are nice, differentiable, check out

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the details in a calculus textbook, then we

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can actually conclude at this stage that

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what we're really interested in also

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goes to 1. A really really nice trick.

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So, overall, what we've seen is that to

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make sense of 0/0 in calculus just means

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setting a special kind of context and

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sneaking up on the zeros. The same

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sort of thing if you want to make sense

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of 3/0. You also do this by sneaking up

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on 0 and of course you know that

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things explode magnitudewise and, you

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know, you can make sense of this in this

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way. But that's not the end of it all

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So in higher levels of calculus it

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actually makes sense to treat infinity

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like a number and to actually write

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equations like 3/0 is equal to infinity and

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you really mean it.

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So these things don't stand for any kind

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of functions they really stand for, you

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know, 3 as a number divided by 0 as a

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number is equal to infinity (sort of) as a

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number. In other branches of mathematics

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you sometimes find that it actually does make

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sense to set 0/0 equal to 1. But that's

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a topic for another video, so let's

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just leave it at that.