real american concept
SEE HERITAGE REAL AM 2 9 26
= white xian? MC?
blood and soil = nazi?
exclusivist can --> eliminationist?
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10/09/2025
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Earlier this year, far-right Christian nationalist activist C. Jay Engel gloated that with the return of the Trump administration to power, representatives of the online right are now in power.
"We have our guys are in Washington and I think that the momentum is on our side," Engel declared. "This isn't going away."
On Wednesday, Engel—a virulently anti-immigrant commentator and podcast host who has cheered on the administration's brutal deportation campaign, called for the "repeal of the Twentieth Century," and for Taylor Swift to be "arrested and executed"—appeared on "The Green Tavern" podcast, where he bragged that he personally knows that multiple people who share his far-right worldview are stationed in positions of power throughout Washington, D.C.
"I really think that in the last two or three years, Americans understand the existential nature of what we're going through," Engel said. "We always laugh about the grill Americans and the people that would just rather watch the football game than get involved in politics, and I think that is basically no longer the chief characteristic of young right-wing men. I think they really do care a lot."
"With [President Donald] Trump and Stephen Miller and [Vice President J.D.] Vance, maybe we can't say they're perfect, but we can say that our guys are getting into positions of influence," Engel added. "And I can say for certain, because I know some of these people, that there are very good right-wing Heritage Americans in staff positions all over Washington. And I trust them, I know them, and good things are happening."
The term "Heritage American" is, when used by Engel and his ilk, essentially a euphemism for a form of anti-immigrant white nationalism that insists only those whose ancestors have been in this country for several generations truly qualify as Americans.
"We just have to continue to fight and double down," Engel continued. "The American right wing of 2026 needs to make the American right wing of 2025 look like liberals, and that we need to do that every single year. We need to push the Overton Window. And I think that we really have a bright future ahead of us. It's going to be some struggle, probably some violence, but I think our children will be able to take up where we've left off. And so I would encourage everyone to just keep pushing it because we're doing great things."
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- Phil Williams @ Confront The Hate: Don’t Have the Right Blood? You’re Not a Real American, Far-Right Influencer Argues
C.Jay Engel helped popularize the term “Heritage American.” Now, he’s pushing the discredited theory of “blood memory.”
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9 25? meme 5 cats based on when fam arrived?
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Elijah Schaffer declares that Black people are not Americans because originally they were originally slaves: "Amendments were made and there was adjustments that gave you citizenship and the right to vote but it didn't make you an American, it just gave you American citizenship."
https://www.alternet.org/2022/10/unbelievable-twitter-users-lambast-jim-jordan-when-real-america-post-misfires-badly/
unbelievable': Twitter users blast Jim Jordan after 'real America' post backfires
October 14, 2022
Far-right Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, not unlike former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is big on “real America” rhetoric — often implying that Americans who live in blue states or blue districts and vote Democratic aren’t really...
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When arch-conservative Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming criticizes President Joe Biden's economic policies, it is obvious that she still considers him the loyal opposition — and the feeling is mutual. But there is a school of right-wing thought that doesn't regard Biden or any other Democrat as the loyal opposition. In an article published by The Atlantic on October 1, journalist Emma Green takes a look at far-right MAGA Republicans who fear that the irreconcilable differences of Red America and Blue America may lead to an all-out civil war.
Members of the Claremont Institute, a far-right think tank, have been saying that Republicans and Democrats aren't just members of competing political parties, but are, in effect, living in two separate countries. Describing Claremont as the "intellectual home of America's Trumpist right," Green notes that Claremont President Ryan Williams and his colleagues "believe that America has" become "two fundamentally different countries, not least because of the rise of secularism."
During an interview with Green, Williams claimed, "The Founders were pretty unanimous, with (George) Washington leading the way, that the Constitution is really only fit for a Christian people."
Williams, during the interview, didn't say that another civil war is something he looks forward to. But he fears that the United States' political divisions will lead to major violence. The Claremont president told Green, "I worry about such a conflict. The Civil War was terrible. It should be the thing we try to avoid almost at all costs."
On March 24, Claremont's website, the American Mind, published a controversial essay by senior follow Glenn Ellmers, — who wrote, "Most people living in the United States today — certainly more than half — are not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term." Ellmers' article was headlined "'Conservatism' Is No Longer Enough" and explained why Claremont rejects traditional conservatism.
Green asked Williams, "What does it mean to declare that more than half of the people residing in the country are not truly American?" — to which he replied, "Glenn was, of course, being provocative and polemical. But if Claremont thinks real Americanism is a belief in the principles of the American founding, we have to acknowledge that a good portion of our fellow citizens don't agree with our principles and conclusions about what politics is for. If we differ on those fundamental things, we're really two Americas."
Williams added, "Even during the Civil War — I think we're more divided now than we were then. As (President Abraham) Lincoln said, we all prayed to the same God. We all believed in the same Constitution. We just differed over the question of slavery."
the ACT of voting ~ trump is disqualifying?
In a far-right essay published by the website The American Mind in March, the increasingly extremist Claremont Institute's Glenn Ellmers argued that the millions of people who voted against former President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election — although technically U.S. citizens — have forfeited the essence of what it means to be American. Paul Matzko addresses that type of thinking in an article published by the Libertarianism.org website this week, explaining why it has an "exclusionary" bent.
Matzko explains that Ellmers "writes off all who voted against Trump as those 'who may technically be citizens of the United States but are no longer, if they ever were, Americans'…. His basis for exclusion is that 'they do not believe in, live by, or even like the principles, traditions, and ideals that until recently defined America as a nation and as a people.'"
Matzko goes on to say that while Ellmers' critics have denounced his essay as "undemocratic" and even "fascist," another term for that type of outlook is "herrenvolk democracy."
The writer explains, "National conservatism aspires to convert America into a 'herrenvolk democracy,' a term taken from the German for 'master people' — which historian George Frederickson defined as any 'formally democratic political system in which voting and office holding is limited to members of a dominant ethno‐racial group.'"
Matzko adds, "Historians typically apply the concept to the political situation of the post‐Reconstruction South beginning in the 1870s, a time when White Democrats sought to disenfranchise newly freed Black Republicans. But the term could just as easily describe White Republicans today who seek to disenfranchise Black and Brown Democrats. In both cases, herrenvolk ideologues would retain democratic forms while gating participation in that democracy along cultural, ethnic and racial lines."
According to Matzko,"Ellmers's exclusionary logic — he calls immigrants unassimilable — and dehumanizing language are a reminder that national conservatism trades on a conception of American democracy as rooted in native-born blood and strictly bordered soil."
https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/right-wing-keeps-suggesting-country/
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The right wing keeps suggesting that most of the country just doesn’t count
Former President Donald Trump speaking at CPAC 2022 in Orlando, Florida on February 27, 2022, Wikimedia Commons]
Alex Henderson June 03, 2022
When Joe Biden was hitting the campaign trail in 2020, he bragged about how — during his decades in the U.S. Senate — he was able to work with right-wing Republicans, find common ground and get productive legislation passed. Many of today’s MAGA Republicans, in contrast, brag about refusing to compromise with Democrats and act as though millions of Democratic voters simply don’t exist or don’t matter.
That mindset was evident when Gavin Wax, president of the New York Young Republican Club, made a June 2 appearance on One America News — a cable news outlet that’s known for promoting far-right conspiracy theories and prides itself on being to the right of Fox News and Fox Business. OAN’s Kara McKinney brought Wax on the show “Tipping Point,” which she hosts, to discuss gun control, and Wax’s comments went beyond the usual gun lobby and National Rifle Association (NRA) talking points.
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Wax told McKinney, “We certainly have a lower rate of mass shooting from many other countries across the world, and if you take out some of the big cities in the U.S. and the gang and drug-related instances of mass shootings, the United States is actually one of the safest places in the world. But of course, you know, the Democrats and the media are going to politicize and weaponize this issue because their end goal is to disarm law-abiding U.S. citizens and make us a less free country as a result.”
Watch below via Media Matters for America:
First, the U.S. is much more violent than countries in Europe are known for being. Residents of the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Austria, Sweden and many other European countries are horrified by how common mass shootings are in the U.S., where a May 24 mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas left 19 children and two teachers dead. It came less than two weeks after a May 14 mass shooting in Buffalo, New York that claimed ten lives.
Second, Wax’s comments showed total indifference to residents of major urban areas, many of whom vote Democrat. Those comments reflect a MAGA mindset that the concerns of voters don’t count if they live in large cities.
But Wax is hardly the only Republican who thinks that way. Just as Wax implied that voters who are worried about violence don’t count if they are urban dwellers, Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana recently commented that his state’s high rate of maternal mortality isn’t bad if you don’t focus too heavily on African-American women.
Cassidy, in May, told Politico that when it comes to pregnancy-related deaths, “If you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear.”
Journalist Tat Bellamy-Walker, reporting on Cassidy for NBC News, explained, “Louisiana has some of the highest Black maternal death rates in the country. A report from the state’s health department shows that four Black mothers die for every White mother and two Black babies die for every one White baby. In the United States, Black mothers are three times more likely to die in childbirth than White mothers.”
The fact that so many of the maternal deaths in Louisiana involve African-American women doesn’t mean that Louisiana doesn’t have a major problem with maternal deaths; in fact, it underscores the problem.
Following the 2020 presidential election, far-right Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed a lawsuit seeking to throw out millions of votes in four states that Biden won: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia. The fact that Biden was the clear favorite in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee and Atlanta — all of which have a lot of Black voters — didn’t matter to Paxton, who couldn’t have cared less about the will of voters in those cities. And he wanted their votes invalidated.
In a op-ed/essay published by the New York Times on June 3, journalist Mimi Swartz — executive editor of the Texas Monthly — expresses her extreme frustration with Gov. Greg Abbott, arguing that he is totally indifferent to millions of Texans who aren’t “hard-right culture warriors.”
During his June 2 appearance on OAN, Wax angrily railed against “RINOs” (Republican in Name Only) who are willing to work with Democrats on gun control legislation. Wax’s mindset is very much an us-versus-them mentality, and in today’s Republican Party, it isn’t at all uncommon.
aha: // heartland reverse engr: we will be destroyed by evil dems, so therefore they did not win/will not rule? thus voter suppression is unfair (unAmerican in trad sense) but necessary ; mypillow guy sent gunmen to polls?
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https://www.alternet.org/2022/03/far-right-biden-presidency/
a Georgetown University history professor is shedding light on the real reason why far-right Republicans still believe the unfounded claim that President Joe Biden's presidential win was illegitimate.
While its no secret that election conspiracy theories and false claims of widespread voter fraud have run rampant since former President Donald Trump lost his bid for re-election, there is a reason why Republicans "are convinced the outcome of the election was illegitimate regardless of whether or not there were specific procedural irregularities."
In an analysis published via The Guardian, Thomas Zimmer, a Georgetown University history professor with a concentration on the United States' democracy, referenced a controversial essay written from the perspective of a far-right conservative.
The essay, titled “ ‘Conservatism’ is No Longer Enough,” was penned by conservative writer Glenn Ellmers for The Claremont Institute's right-wing publication, American Mind.Zimmer notes:
"It is notable that Ellmers makes no claim that the 2020 election was 'stolen' – he doesn’t allege manipulation, voter fraud, or conspiracy, and in fact explicitly acknowledges that more people voted for Biden than for Trump. He does not peddle conspiracy theories. Yet Ellmers maintains that the outcome of the 2020 election is illegitimate and must not be accepted."
Zimmer then highlighted another key takeaway from Ellmer's piece:
"Ellmers is outraged precisely because he accepts the fact that a majority voted for Biden, that 'authentic Americans' have become the minority in a country which they are supposedly entitled to dominate. Here we have a striking glimpse of the depth of despair underlying the pervasive siege mentality on the right. What’s scandalous about the 2020 election, in this interpretation, is not that it was “stolen”, but that “un-American” forces straightforwardly won."
Zimmer's analysis also delved into the disturbing ideology behind the majority of Republican voters' thinking in regard to Biden being an illegitimate president.
"What is most alarming is the underlying ideology that leads so many on the right to consider Democratic victories invalid – even if they concede there was nothing technically wrong with how the election was conducted," Zimmer wrote. "It has become a core tenet of the Republican worldview to consider the Democratic party as not simply a political opponent, but an enemy pursuing an 'un-American' project of turning what is supposed to be a white Christian patriarchal nation into a land of godless multiracial pluralism."
Zimmer added, "Conversely, Republicans see themselves as the sole proponents of 'real' America, defending the country from the forces of radical leftism, liberalism, and wokeism."
He went on to explain Republicans' beliefs of the Democratic Party. "Even if they don’t subscribe to the more outlandish conspiracies propagated by Trumpists, many Republicans agree that the Democratic party is a fundamentally illegitimate political faction — and that any election outcome that would lead to Democratic governance must be rejected as illegitimate as well."
to be fair hunter is applying term:
https://www.alternet.org/2021/10/the-qanon-movement-was-always-based-on-neo-nazi-conspiracies-now-the-mask-is-slipping/
hunter kos
We have noted in the past that the "QAnon" movement is not a set of new conspiracy theories, but a recasting of some of the most popular neo-Nazi, white supremacist, antisemitic themes of the last century for broader conspiracy consumption. Nazi-era antisemitic conspiracy theories declared that "Jews" were secretly controlling the world, that they were working to undermine governments and cultures, and that they drank the blood of children in secret rituals.
QAnon's version is identical: A shadowy cabal of "globalists" is secretly controlling the world, is working to undermine governments and cultures (for example, through a "great replacement" of Americans with new nonwhite immigrants, as supposedly funded by wealthy Jewish American George Soros), and is secretly trafficking children to harvest compounds from their blood.The most bizarre of Nazi and neo-Nazi themes :{have found eager new homes in the brains of supposed :(style="background-color:#ffff66;"):}::{"real" Americans:(style="background-color:#ff9900;"):}: who have invariably settled on the same targets and solutions as their neo-Nazi enablers: Round up the "globalists"—meaning liberals, socialists, Democrats, those who fight for LGBT rights, those who treat immigrants with decency—and jail them. "Lock them up." Purge them.
The "everyday" Americans who have adopted QAnon beliefs as their own, insisting that the "child trafficking" or blood "harvesting" or something-something George Soros conspiracies are real, are Good Nazis. They are the sort of citizens who made Nazi Germany tick. They are sweet, patriotic parents of somebody, or children of somebody, and all they know in life is that their enemies must be defeated, even if defeating them means toppling democracy and/or supporting the most incompetent of tax-dodging lying rapist perverts.
Whether they can be reformed once they've gone down that rabbit hole is a subject for others to engage. Myself, I expect not. Human beings do not accidentally fall into believing their not-white or not-Christian or not-Republican neighbors are barely human saboteurs plotting behind the scenes to do whatever evil you might imagine. They started out that way, then fell into conspiracy holes that were pleasing because they ticked off all the boxes their previous paranoias needed to tick off.
The movement itself, however, has been drifting back to the rawer antisemitism that first crafted it.
VICE News reports that John Sabal, the influential QAnon promoter who will this week host a major QAnon conference at which four aspiring Republican lawmakers are scheduled to speak recommended on Sunday to his followers a notorious neo-Nazi conspiracy film blaming Jews as the architects of communism, World Wars I and II, and the sabotage of Naziism. "The most important historical film of all time," Sabal touted.
The posts were removed after they were "highlighted by extremist researchers," reports VICE—and Sabal claims through his partner that he never actually watched the film or knew that it was antisemitic. And yes, this is the "QAnon" provocateur with enough clout to collect Republican candidates from across the nation.
This isn't an isolated incident. VICE reports that other QAnon figures have similarly embraced the film, though none as prominent as Sabal has been.The "Q" movement is also attracting much attention and support among German neo-Nazis, who after all have a closer connection to many of the Q-adopted tropes now being exported by American conspiracists.
It hasn't stopped national Republicans from courting conspiracy leaders and allied militias, either.
QAnon may have taken some of its heaviest hits from being uniformly and absurdly wrong in all its preelection and post-election predictions about, well, everything, and from its top founder and likelyQ pretender Ron Watkins, who distanced himself slightly after Trump's loss. (He's now running for Congress himself—in Arizona, of course.) That doesn't mean it's dead.
It's unclear, however, if QAnon believers are becoming more enamored with antisemitism than they once were or if the movement is sloughing off now-bored, less-radical Americans, leaving behind a more radical, neo-Nazi-adjacent core. Conservatism in general is increasingly flirting with antisemitic speech and candidates: In Idaho, a Republican with a long history of antisemitic speech, one who claims "all Jews are dangerous," is enjoying his local party's support for joining the local school board.
Extremist rhetoric in general is being rewarded rather than scorned by Republican voters. It's probably not surprising that the Republican slide into fascism could not help but stoke the same antisemitic sentiments that past versions have relied on.The QAnon, Trump, and Republican movements are all coalescing into one ball of hate and hoaxes; in the House and Senate, party leaders are at worst helping to promote the conspiracies, and at best remaining silent in efforts to ride the hate to new election victories.