John&Ken

) While we stodgy intellectual types busy ourselves worrying about whether the New York Times has misplaced a semicolon, talk radio is joyfully poisoning the wells of public discourse. It's not that talk radio is a little sloppy in its journalistic practice, it's that talk radio has tossed the entire concept of journalistic integrity out the window. Take the L.A.-based John & Ken Show, for example.John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou share the coveted weekday drive-time spot, 4-7PM, on the 50,000-watt Clear Channel radio station KFI in Los Angeles. Their show provides the afternoon anchor to a lineup that includes Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Laura Schlesinger.The power and influence pf these two hosts is suggested by the fact that ranking Democrats such as U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman and California Treasurer Phil Angelides have consented to be questioned by them over the air even though much of the show involves attacks on liberals in general and elected Democrats in particular.Those politicians who refuse their invitations to be interviewed are publicly mocked and taunted. It is easier in some ways to go on the air and face the abuse. Sherman and Angelides defended themselves well, but it requires a rare skill that involves dealing with two voices constantly interrupting or talking loudly right over you.When John and Ken began to develop their show locally, they occasionally provided a real breath of fresh air. When millionaire Republican Michael Huffington challenged incumbent Democratic U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein, they pointed out his obvious lack of qualifications and dubbed him "Michael Nothington." Huffington/Nothington lost a very close election. Going after the other side, they attacked the evasions of Democratic state legislators on the issue of a proposed "three strikes" criminal sentencing bill and arguably were strongly instrumental in its passage.If they had applied their intellectual gifts evenhandedly to expose political evasions and cowardice wherever they appear, the John & Ken Show would have been a reformer's dream come true. Alas, that has not been the case.They took no great interest in the administration of Republican Governor Pete Wilson. Most conservative Republicans, such as state Senator Tom McClintock, get a free pass, but Democratic office holders come in for rude criticism. For years, the duo has been obsessed with Governor Gray Davis. They opposed him during his recent reelection campaign, but he won. When the Republican opposition began talking about a recall campaign, John and Ken jumped aboard. They have supported the recall, defended its advocates, and lambasted its opponents ever since.It goes beyond the exercise of traditional journalism. The recall campaign and its proponents have been given a chance to participate on the show routinely. For example, the Friday (July 18) program included an on-air progress report from the director of the recall campaign, who gave effusive thanks to John and Ken for their support and went on to brag about a recent court victory in favor of getting the recall on the ballot. He publicly credited John and Ken for coming up with the idea for the lawsuit. In other words, a political campaign is now a part of the show.This process of introducing partisan political campaigning into a discussion format radio show goes far beyond what would be considered acceptable in the print media. This has never been so obvious as when KFI allowed one of the opposition candidates to control the show. Rep. Issa, the first to announce his candidacy for the recall ballot, was offered the chance to guest host the John & Ken Show.Imagine if Al Gore had been offered the chance to supervise the editorial pages of the Miami Herald in October 2000. In the newspaper world the idea is so unlikely as to be preposterous, yet Issa sat in as a KFI talk show host (by remote feed) on July 11, 2003. The rest of the media basically ignored it. (The station argues disingenuously that it also invited Governor Davis to do a show.)The attack on Davis continues, and it is a multimedia assault. On their website (www.johnandken.com), you can find links to the recall campaign as well as to articles and opinion pieces attacking Davis. Other newspaper articles reporting on developments friendly to the recall campaign are listed and linked. There are also links to organizations hostile to the recall, but it is a small set that seems to represent the sillier opponents.John and Ken share with other conservative talk radio hosts an antipathy to Governor Davis that seems to go beyond the merely rational. It is a visceral sort of nastiness. How else can you explain the fact that they refuse to call Davis by his chosen name?The background is mundane. Before the last gubernatorial election, a losing Democratic primary candidate by the name of Anselmo A. Chavez filed a lawsuit claiming that Gray Davis was not the lawful primary victor because his actual birth name is Joseph Graham Davis Jr. The legal assertion is nonsense, but it gave John and Ken (Jonathan and Kenneth?) the chance to be abusive, and they have accepted the opportunity. On the air and on their Website, the Governor of California is referred to as "Joe Davis." To refuse to call someone by his chosen name is to display contempt that borders on the pathological. As an expression of personal animosity, it represents a lack of objectivity that would force a print editor to take note.The sum of all these parts is an approach that goes beyond the bounds of what is an acceptable practice in journalism. Traditionally, we think of journalistic integrity in terms of getting the facts straight and in avoiding conflicts of interest. This presupposes an overall intent to find the truth and print it. It involves the well-accepted concept that factual stories and editorial opinions require some degree of separation. Newspapers endorse political candidates, but this is an editorial option that is rightly kept separate from campaign reporting.When we consider the dormant idea that the broadcast media should operate in the public interest, the current state of affairs ought to be considered scandalous. For a publicly licensed radio station to become an instrument of a partisan political campaign ought to be raise important questions about our overall political health. Usually, to accuse some organization of (figuratively) being a tool of a political party is to be insulting. In this case, KFI and its employees have literally made themselves a tool of the Davis recall movement.This raises another issue. If the rest of us private citizens want to support someone's candidacy, we can make a monetary donation. Such donations typically are subject to strict reporting requirements and are usually subject to legal limits. Even if you just give food for a fund raising event, provide envelopes to mail campaign literature or offer your storefront for use as an office, that is a donation. Such gifts are referred to as "in kind" contributions and are subject to the same reporting requirements and limits as monetary donations.Radio stations, like television stations and newspapers, sell political advertising. They fully recognize that this service has monetary value and they collect on it. When a radio station offers the full use of its facilities -- transmitter, staff and audience -- to a political candidate, as KFI did for Rep. Darrell Issa, is this not an "in kind contribution?" Should it not be reported as a gift valued at the political advertising rates KFI charges other candidates?The question itself suggests there is something wrong in the way we think about political advertising. If we can demand careful reporting for the donation of a case of pencils but look the other way when the political currency in greatest demand -- air time -- is given away by a wealthy media corporation to its political friends, something screwy is going on.At what point does a radio station's participation in a political campaign cross the line and become a legally defined campaign donation, subject to limits and reporting requirements? Some will argue that talk radio is the constitutionally protected expression of opinion and should never be subject to this kind of governmental regulation. Others may argue that KFI is even now crossing that line.<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Of course, journalism as we ordinarily understand it deserves constitutional protection. The fact that talk radio has taken what used to be journalism and made it into outright political advocacy changes the equation. John and Ken make it clear that they are after results, not balance. Depending on which side you are on, you may like or dislike it, but it's no longer journalism. It is naked politic advocacy practiced loudly and effectively on public airwaves.===

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In 2003, Kobylt and Chiampou were instrumental in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_California_recall" title="2003 California recall" class="mw-redirect">recall</a> of California Governor <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Davis">Gray Davis</a>. Davis, who was derisively called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumby">Gumby</a> on the show for his shifting positions on issues, was criticized on a daily basis for the state's budget deficit, signing a bill that would give drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants, increasing the state's car licensing fee, offering large concessions to state employee <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_unions" class="mw-redirect" title="Labor unions">labor unions</a>, and for his alleged role in creating the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis">California electricity crisis</a>. The hosts regularly had recall petition gatherers on the air and almost immediately threw their support to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a> when he announced he would run for governor. On October 6, 2003, as part of the fallout from Schwarzenegger's scandals, the hosts read information from the Los Angeles Superior Court, purporting that one of the key accusers against Schwarzenegger had a long criminal record. In fact, the information retrieved was about an individual who had nothing to do with the scandal, and the pointers to the information were provided by a Schwarzenegger assistant. The hosts apologized on October 8, after the election.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-12">[13]</a> Increasingly, after Schwarzenegger's 2006 re-election, John and Ken criticized several of the governor's policies. The tirades culminated with an image of Schwarzenegger's head on a sword after the governor signed the largest state tax increase in United States history (eclipsing the New Jersey increase).

In the run-up to the 2004 elections, their main issue was fighting what they saw as misguided policies of the federal and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California">California</a> state governments to encourage <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States" title="Illegal immigration to the United States">illegal immigration</a>. John and Ken devised a "competition" that they dubbed Political Human Sacrifice, in which five <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party%28United_States%29" title="Republican Party (United States)">Republican</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives" title="United States House of Representatives">Representatives</a> from California were grilled regarding their stance on illegal immigration. The "winner" would be the Representative whom the show's listeners saw as the worst on illegal immigration restriction; John and Ken would endorse his or her opponent in the general election and urge listeners to vote for the opponent. Political Human Sacrifice was conducted in a fashion similar to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_television">reality television</a> series such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor%28TV_series%29" title="Survivor (TV series)">Survivor</a>. U.S. Representative <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dreier">David Dreier</a> won the nomination as the "victim" of the "sacrifice." John and Ken also designated a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29" title="Democratic Party (United States)">Democratic</a> Congressman, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Baca">Joe Baca</a>, to be "sacrificed" in the general election. The comments about Dreier resulted in a complaint to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Elections_Commission" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Elections Commission">Federal Elections Commission</a> being filed by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Republican_Congressional_Committee">National Republican Congressional Committee</a>, which was rejected by the FEC on March 17, 2006. As it turned out, both Dreier and Baca won reelection, but this apparently has not deterred John and Ken from their activism on this issue. Dreier outspent his opponent by 30 to 1 and won with 54% of the vote versus 43% for his opponent, his lowest percentage in 24 years.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-13">[14]</a> On the other hand, Baca appeared to have been unaffected as he garnered 66.4% of the vote in 2004, exactly the same percentage as his 2002 vote.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-14">[15]</a>

On May 2, 2005, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTLA">KTLA</a> entertainment reporter Sam Rubin made comments alleging that Kobylt employed an illegal immigrant. Kobylt demanded that Rubin apologize on his program for making this allegation without any basis in fact, and later Kobylt's wife called in to berate Rubin for making the statements. Rubin later apologized and retracted the statements on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTLA-TV" title="KTLA-TV" class="mw-redirect">KTLA</a> 5 Morning News, as well as on the John & Ken Show.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-15">[16]</a> In 2001, Kobylt gave cheese to Mexican immigrants waiting in line to turn in INS documentation, which Spanish media asserted was insensitive.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-16">[17]</a>

John and Ken often do various stunts in regards to their topics. When Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said to a group of illegal alien supporters "We clean your toilets", the duo urged their listeners to send toilet brushes to the mayor's office, of which thousands were received.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-17">[18]</a> Other jokes include taking Cardinal Roger Mahony's words of, "So Disappointed," whenever the duo are talking about illegal immigration.

When <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Beach,_California" title="Long Beach, California">Long Beach</a>, California residents protested the presence of several paroled <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registration" title="Sex offender registration">registered sex offenders</a> living in one apartment complex, John and Ken hosted a remote broadcast near the complex on February 19, 2008. Fueled by this story, on March 11, 2008, and approved with a required second vote on March 18, 2008, Long Beach City Council members voted 7-0 to enact 18 ordinances heavily restricting the residency and recreational activity of all registered sex offenders. The most restrictive ordinance prohibits residency by all registered sex offenders, whether they are on parole or not, within 2,000 feet (610 m) of any child care center, public or private school, or park. In addition, the ordinance prohibits all registered sex offenders from using any park, beach, or facility that caters to children, such as amusement parks and restaurants with children's playgrounds, or even travel within 500 feet (150 m) of such places. Mainly because of John and Ken's broadcast, Long Beach became the first city in California to enact such restrictive measures. Ironically, although many of the 18 ordinances are relevant to apartment or multiple-family dwellings, there are no apartment complexes within the 2,000-foot (610 m) exclusion zone within Long Beach city limits as referenced by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_maps" class="mw-redirect" title="Google maps">Google maps</a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-18">[19]</a>

The duo was named one of the 100 most influential people in Southern California by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times">Los Angeles Times</a> in 2006.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-19">[20]</a>

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<h2>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_and_Ken&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Political views">edit</a>] Political views</h2>

The hosts eschew any party labels or loyalties. Mostly fiscally conservative on issues like taxes, they also frequently lean <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism" title="Conservatism">conservative</a> with regard to crime.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-20">[21]</a> They are staunch opponents of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration">illegal immigration</a> and government employee <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_union" title="Labor union" class="mw-redirect">labor unions</a>. They support strong sentences for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_molester" title="Child molester" class="mw-redirect">child molesters</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murderers" class="mw-redirect" title="Murderers">murderers</a>, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty" class="mw-redirect" title="Death penalty">death penalty</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law">Megan's Law</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica%27s_Law">Jessica's Law</a>. They also oppose driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. They are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian" class="mw-redirect" title="Libertarian">libertarian</a> in other aspects, such as being <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-choice">pro-choice</a>, supporting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gays_in_the_military" class="mw-redirect" title="Gays in the military">gays in the military</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-21">[22]</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_marriage" class="mw-redirect" title="Gay marriage">gay marriage</a>, opposing the influence of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right" title="Christian right">Religious Right</a> on American politics, opposing the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War">Iraq War</a>, opposing funds for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_transportation" class="mw-redirect" title="Public transportation">public transportation</a>, and opposing tax increases. "Big government" positions they take include further construction of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeways" class="mw-redirect" title="Freeways">freeways</a>, funding for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryonic_stem_cell_research" class="mw-redirect" title="Embryonic stem cell research">embryonic stem cell research</a>, an enhanced federal role in emergency preparedness for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency">Federal Emergency Management Agency</a> (FEMA), increased federal law enforcement on the border. They tend to be moderate to liberal on the use of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29" title="Cannabis (drug)">marijuana</a>.

In the 2006 elections in California, they endorsed six Republicans and one Democrat in statewide races. <a href="http://www.johnandkenshow.com/state-wide-office/" class="external autonumber" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> In 2007, Kobylt appeared at a fundraiser for Republican presidential contender <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani">Rudy Giuliani</a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_note-22">[23]</a> In 2008, they opposed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%282008%29" title="California Proposition 8 (2008)">Proposition 8</a>, which banned gay marriage within California.

One notable disagreement between the two was in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,2008" title="United States presidential election, 2008">2008 presidential election</a>, where Kobylt voted for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain">John McCain</a> while Chiampou voted for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama">Barack Obama</a>. The two then discussed the merits of their candidates and defended their choices. Kobylt spoke about McCain's history of opposing wasteful spending while Chiampou stated how he felt that Obama was best suited to bring meaningful reform after what both agreed was a need to breakaway from the shortcomings of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_George_W.Bush" title="Presidency of George W. Bush">Bush years</a>.

<h2>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_and_Ken&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: References">edit</a>] References</h2>

<li id="cite_note-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-0">^</a> <a href="http://www.kfi640.com/pages/Station.html?feed=128007&article=447625" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"KFI AM 640 Show Schedule"</a>. <a href="http://www.kfi640.com/pages/Station.html?feed=128007&article=447625" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://www.kfi640.com/pages/Station.html?feed=128007&article=447625</a>. Retrieved July 23, 2007[.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.btitle=KFI+AM+640+Show+Schedule&rft.atitle=&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kfi640.com%2Fpages%2FStation.html%3Ffeed%3D128007%26article%3D447625&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:John_and_Ken"> </li>

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<li id="cite_note-3"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-3">^</a> Pfeifer, Stuart (April 19, 2008). <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/19/local/me-johnandken19" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"Radio hosts defend their Carona skits"</a>. The Los Angeles Times. <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/19/local/me-johnandken19" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/19/local/me-johnandken19</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Radio+hosts+defend+their+Carona+skits&rft.jtitle=The+Los+Angeles+Times&rft.aulast=Pfeifer&rft.aufirst=Stuart&rft.au=Pfeifer%2C%26%2332%3BStuart&rft.date=April+19%2C+2008&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.latimes.com%2F2008%2Fapr%2F19%2Flocal%2Fme-johnandken19&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:John_and_Ken"> </li>

<li id="cite_note-4"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-4">^</a> <a href="http://talkers.com/online/?p=71" class="external text" rel="nofollow">The Top Talk Radio Audiences</a>. Talkers Magazine. Retrieved 2010-09-02.</li>

<li id="cite_note-5"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-5">^</a> Parisi, Albert J. "His Beat Is the City's Pulse" <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times" class="mw-redirect" title="New York Times">New York Times</a>, July 10, 1988, Page 12NJ.</li>

<li id="cite_note-autogenerated1-6">^ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-autogenerated1_6-0">a</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-autogenerated1_6-1">b</a> Russakoff, Dale. "The Gov Whose Time Has Come, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post">The Washington Post</a>, April 12, 1993, Page B1.</li>

<li id="cite_note-7"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-7">^</a> <a href="http://handsacrossnewjersey.us/aboutus2.html" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Hands Across New Jersey</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-8"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-8">^</a> Perebinossoff, Phillippe, et al. Programming for TV, Radio, and the Internet, Page 60.</li>

<li id="cite_note-9"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-9">^</a> <a href="http://www.radioandrecords.com/Conventions/TRS2006/awards/index.asp" class="external text" rel="nofollow">R&R - Radio & Records, Inc</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-10"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-10">^</a> <a href="http://www.nab.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Awards&CONTENTID=6759&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm" class="external text" rel="nofollow">National Association of Broadcasters | 2006 Major Market Personality of the Year Winner: Scott Slade, WSB-AM</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-11"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-11">^</a> <a href="http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/77624/knew-replaces-john-and-ken-with-john-gibson" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/77624/knew-replaces-john-and-ken-with-john-gibson</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-12"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-12">^</a> <a href="http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=9674" class="external text" rel="nofollow">LA Weekly - General - Arnoldâs True Lie - Nikki Finke - The Essential Online Resource for Los Angeles</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-13"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-13">^</a> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060219015822/http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/15/state0333EST0020.DTL" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"Dreier race illustrates cautionary tale on immigration policy"</a>. The San Francisco Chronicle. Archived from <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/15/state0333EST0020.DTL" class="external text" rel="nofollow">the original</a> on February 19, 2006. <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20060219015822/http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/15/state0333EST0020.DTL" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20060219015822/http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/15/state0333EST0020.DTL</a>. Retrieved December 6, 2005.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Dreier+race+illustrates+cautionary+tale+on+immigration+policy&rft.jtitle=The+San+Francisco+Chronicle&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20060219015822%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Farticle.cgi%3Ff%3D%2Fnews%2Farchive%2F2004%2F11%2F15%2Fstate0333EST0020.DTL&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:John_and_Ken"> </li>

<li id="cite_note-14"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-14">^</a> <a href="http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/usrep/4300.htm" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Baca's 2004 votes.</a><a href="http://vote2002.ss.ca.gov/Returns/usrep/4300.htm" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Baca's 2002 votes.</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-15"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-15">^</a> <a href="http://www.ronfineman.com/050506.asp" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Ron Fineman's ON THE RECORD</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-16"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-16">^</a> <a href="http://www.ronfineman.com/010507.html" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Ron Fineman's ON THE RECORD</a></li>

<li id="cite_note-17"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-17">^</a> <a href="http://johnandkenshow.com/audio/files/samrubin.wmx" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"Sam Rubin, KTLA Gadfly (audio/wmx)"</a>. <a href="http://johnandkenshow.com/audio/files/samrubin.wmx" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://johnandkenshow.com/audio/files/samrubin.wmx</a>. Retrieved December 6, 2005.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.btitle=Sam+Rubin%2C+KTLA+Gadfly+%28audio%2Fwmx%29&rft.atitle=&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnandkenshow.com%2Faudio%2Ffiles%2Fsamrubin.wmx&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:John_and_Ken"> </li>

<li id="cite_note-18"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-18">^</a> <a href="http://www.lbreport.com/news/mar08/sexord2.htm" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"LBReport.com"</a>. Council Approves LB Muni Code Amendments Adding Sex Offender Residency/Loitering Restrictions. <a href="http://www.lbreport.com/news/mar08/sexord2.htm" class="external free" rel="nofollow">http://www.lbreport.com/news/mar08/sexord2.htm</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=bookitem&rft.btitle=LBReport.com&rft.atitle=Council+Approves+LB+Muni+Code+Amendments+Adding+Sex+Offender+Residency%2FLoitering+Restrictions&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbreport.com%2Fnews%2Fmar08%2Fsexord2.htm&rfr_id=info:sid/en.wikipedia.org:John_and_Ken"> </li>

<li id="cite_note-19"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-19">^</a> "Our list of the most powerful people in Southern California". Los Angeles Times West Magazine, August 13, 2006. Page 16.</li>

<li id="cite_note-20"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-20">^</a> Bailey, Eric. State budget talks marked by secrecy. Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles, Calif.: Feb 11, 2009. pg. B.3</li>

<li id="cite_note-21"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-21">^</a> Shuster, Fred. "LIFTING OF MILITARY'S GAY BAN DOMINATES RADIO AIR WAVES." Daily News of Los Angeles, February 2, 1993. Page L19</li>

<li id="cite_note-22"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Ken#cite_ref-22">^</a> Jubal:<a href="http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2007/06/giuliana_at_fla.html," class="external text" rel="nofollow">"OC Blog"</a></li>

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<li><a href="http://johnandkenshow.com" class="external text" rel="nofollow">The John and Ken Show (Official site)</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.talkheroes.com/" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Heroes of Talk Radio ~ The Unofficial John and Ken Show Fan Site and Forum</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.warpradio.com/player/embed.asp?id=13919" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Alternate feed from Cable Radio Network</a></li>

<li><a href="http://news.newspress.com/mjacksonupdate/publicopinion/030105mediajokesandjeers.html" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Michael Jackson Trial Coverage</a></li>

<li><a href="http://nctimes.com/articles/2004/08/14/news/top_stories/20_41_308_13_04.txt" class="external text" rel="nofollow">Cheers, jeers at immigration town hall meeting</a> (contentious meeting featuring John and Ken, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHS" class="mw-redirect" title="DHS">DHS</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asa_Hutchinson" title="Asa Hutchinson">Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa" title="Darrell Issa">Congressman Darrell Issa</a> discussing immigration sweeps in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temecula" title="Temecula" class="mw-redirect">Temecula, CA</a>)</li>

<li><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39418" class="external text" rel="nofollow">"(Hutchinson) slammed for stopping illegals sweeps"</a> (discusses John and Ken's campaign in favor of those immigration sweeps and includes link to a 22-minute interview John Kobylt conducted with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asa_Hutchinson">Asa Hutchinson</a>)</li>

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