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Abbott, Larry Columbia

<p>Apr 8, 2008 9:01 PM

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Prof. Larry Abbott

Prof. of Theoretical Neuroscience

Columbia Univ.

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Gave &#160;Robt &#160;Hofstadter Mem. Lectures &#160;(Hofst. won Nobel in 1961 for discovering that proton and neutrons had internal structure)

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My interview today:

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Q Bob : Memory encoded by a few synapses OR &#160;huge populations of neurons:

A Larry: &#160;prob. large populations

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Q: &#160;Bob &#160;What do you think of Jeff Hawkins works

A &#160;Good; &#160;also comes to it from another field; &#160;consensus model; &#160;accurate

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Q: &#160;IBM &#160;Blue Brain &#160;&#160;&#160;OR &#160;C Cortex &#160;Project in SF

A: &#160;They are doing highly detailed modeling of anatomy and physiol.

My models are more limited.

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Q: &#160;How is info &#160;transferred from &#160;Hippocampus back to cortex for permanent storage

A: &#160;My group is working on that; &#160;have some ideas; &#160;its a hard problem &#160;(shifting a pattern)

(similar to Bill's &#160;question of function of sleep; chaotic activity triggering patterns)

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Q: &#160;Do you hang out with Eric Kandel?

A: &#160;Of &#160;course; &#160;he asks &#160;do I know E.K.? &#160;My A: &#160;Only thru Stfd lectures.

(I mention my bkgrnd at MIT with Lettvin, &#160;Minsky, &#160;etc.)

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Lecture 2: &#160;HOw do you get accurate coding in presence of spontand, chaotic noise?

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Who's Afraidof Chaotic Networks? &#160;Models of Sensory and Motor Proc. in Face of Sponatn Neuronal Activity

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Large, strongly coupled neural networks produce chaotic sponatna activity. &#160;You'd think they'd be unreliable. &#160;But NO.

Inputs can induce PHASE TRANSITIONS, leading to reponses uncontaminated by chaotic noise. &#160;&#160;Likewise approp trained feedback units can controlthe chaos, &#160;resulting in a wide variety of repeatable output patterns.

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He shows &#160;diagram of CAT looking at a target; &#160;record from many units in &#160;visual cortex.

It looks like you see a pattern if you look at the activity map in the cortex.

HOWEVER ... &#160;if you TURN&#160;OUT the lights ... &#160;the pattern is still there.

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CONCLUSION: &#160;Brain neurons fire on their own; &#160;lots of spontan. activity without any sensory input.

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My paper notes are in my file for &#160;NEURAL&#160;NETS &#160;(in neuro section).

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Xi &#160;= &#160;total current in ith neuron;; &#160;&#160;ri &#160;is the firing rate of that neuron

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Change in curruent = current + &#160;SUM (Jij * rj &#160;&#160;&#160;- &#160;&#160;bi &#160;(bias current)

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Jij &#160;is &#160;strength of synapse connecting &#160;jth neuron to neuron i.

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typical time constant = &#160;10 msec;

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behavior of networks crucially depends on VARIANCE of &#160;firing rates in network;

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if &#160;g = &#160;normalized variance &#160;is &#60; 1 then network is inactive; &#160;if &#160;g is BIG; &#160;&#62; 1 then &#160;there is spontan chaos.

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Jij &#160;matrix &#160;is unusual in that columns are either ALL pos or &#160;ALL neg &#160;cuz &#160;A GIVEN NEURON IS EITHER EXCIT. OR INHIB

BUT NEVER BOTH &#160;(ie &#160;even tho its inputs may be both, &#160;its outputs are either all excit or all inhib..

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Normalized &#160;mean input to &#160;0 &#160;( so each row sums to 0).

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Intuitive model is this: &#160;networks are noisy; &#160;if u supply big input signal then get &#160;big &#160;S/R ratio to over-ride noise.

That is wrong; &#160;instead: &#160;SIGNAL&#160;SUPPRESSES&#160;THE&#160;NOISE cuz the entire system undergoes a PHASE TRANSITION and

chaos shuts down.

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If you transform &#160;original &#160;del (current) eqn; &#160;it looks like &#160;NEWTON; &#160;law of motion; &#160;ma = F = &#160;del V/del x

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Eqn has W shaped well; &#160;stable point is in middle of W.

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Get noise suppression around 5 to 9 hertz.

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NOISE&#160;SUPPRESSION is prob. most sensative &#160;index of coding of input rather than the system's actual direct coding response

to the input pattern.

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That's sensory; &#160;how abt &#160;MOTOR; &#160;can get noise suppression by feeding back from &#160;output cell &#160;(cortical pyramidal cell)

back to cells that give it its inputs.

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