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06 - Dr. Hajo Meyer

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Dr. Hajo Meyer is a Holocaust survivor and anti-Zionist activist. He has been conducting a speaking tour titled "Never Again For Anyone," sharing his experiences of surviving Auschwitz and his perceptions of Zionism and the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

This video is a selection of clips from an interview with Dr. Meyer on February 19, 2011 and discusses his views of the antagonistic relationship between Zionism and Judaism.

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my name is haigha Meyer I was born in

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August 1924 in Bielefeld

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western Germany and so I'm 86 year old

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and I've had to leave Germany in January

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1939 because from November 1938 on I was

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not allowed to go to school anymore

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they went in in in in the Netherlands I

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first made my entrance examination still

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under the term it to the University

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still under German occupation it

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occurred in April 43 then I went

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underground and then in in around that

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year later I was caught and and brought

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to Auschwitz in survival to ten months

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out streets in my view I I was educated

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in in the tradition of enlightened

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reformed Judaism without any relation to

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the prescript of halakhah but just to

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the social cultural heritage and the

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enlightened enlightened parts of Judaism

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this ethical tradition is absolutely

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contrary to everything which is at the

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basis of Zionism because Zionism was

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created by mr. Hetzel and others who

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were at the end of the 19th century and

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then in that era it was commonplace to

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be colonialist to be racist to be to be

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super nationalist to adore the

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nation-state

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so the idea of France for the French

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Germany for the dramatics and and and

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then some some state for the for the

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Jews they were very bad ideas and they

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all form the basis for Zion very often

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they cannot get the education they want

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and and and that is terrible if you are

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not allowed to get an education you do

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your utter best

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to go against the forces which made you

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stop education and so you search for

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education and I learned to get an

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education by myself for years and

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eventually had a very high education and

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was very successful professionally but

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it may gave gave me also the the idea

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that preventing people young people who

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are eager to learn from getting

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education is a form of genocide because

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if you cannot realize your own ambitions

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because you the access to education is

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made impossible then you cannot develop

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your personality and and that is a form

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of slow-motion genocide and and that's

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where my great sympathy in my connection

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to the Palestinian youth comes from

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because I suffered I think they suffer

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from exactly that that they very very of

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more often than not cannot get the

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education they want and I think that is

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absolutely murderous besides that many I

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mean look I was i I was a refugee and

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there are most of them come from refugee

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homes and are refugees so we have very

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much in common yes I saw in Auschwitz

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that is a dominant group wants to

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dehumanize others so as the Nazis wanted

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to dehumanize me these dominant group

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must must first be dehumanized in in a

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way themselves by diminishing the

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empathy due to to propaganda and an

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indoctrination in order to be able to be

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as cruel as somewhere ok but the same

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holds holds nowadays for Israel and and

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this fact has been documented by by at

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least I know - very impressive documents

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one by Fulham it's a lonely who is

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appalled about who was once Minister of

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Education Israel

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how hateful racist how depreciating the

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schoolbooks in Israel talk about about

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the Palestinians and an a new repellent

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come on who is a pedagogue in the

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University of Tel Aviv has made a big

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study of the schoolbooks and she's

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appalled about the racism which is

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taught to to children in Israel and then

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you get nowadays the the the rabbis in

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especially the army rabbis get ever more

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aggressive they're are so aggressive

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they are so racist it's it's not and

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look it's so it I am appalled about how

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hateful how dehumanized they that they

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do not think see any human aspect in any

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Palestinian anymore it's terrible the

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Zionists have not any right whatsoever

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to use the Holocaust for any purpose I

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mean like like Netanyahu did the other

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day in the General Assembly of the

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United Nations

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he used the number of my arm or the

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number of our arms to to defend and

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coming attack on Iran it's nothing to do

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with the treasure look they have they

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have given up everything which has to do

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with humanity with with empathy for one

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thing the state the blood and soil just

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like the Nazis I was then you can I mean

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I learned that school about blood and

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soil and that's exactly their their idea

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to and and humans humans do not play a

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role Judaism as I learned it it is

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highly highly ethical and and so you

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cannot connect

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Dianna's with Heidi

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ethical you can only connect the words

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aggressive oppressive stealing robbing

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with lasagnas but not highly ethical

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that is and Judaism a contrary to each

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other because Judaism is universal and

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humane in Zionism is exactly the

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opposite it is very narrow very

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nationalistic racist colorless to do all

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this they there is no there is no

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national Judaism there is an ism in the

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as Buddhism and they are completely

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different

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you

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take-take-take these were so many things

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