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- Anti-War Rant -- 'Chicken Hawk!'
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Sep 7, 2006 — An e-mail going around the Internet purports to list "chicken hawks," including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Vice President Dick Cheney and ...
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Elliott Abrams
Ken Adelman
Roger Ailes
Lamar Alexander
George Felix Allen
Richard Keith "Dick" Armey
John Ashcroft
Harvey Leroy "Lee" Atwater
Haley Reeves Barbour
Bob Barr
Roscoe Bartlett
Robert Leroy Bartley
Joseph Linus "Joe" Barton
Charles Foster "Charlie" Bass
Gary Lee Bauer
Glenn Lee Beck
William Bennett
Richard B. Berman
Wolf Isaac Blitzer
Richard Blumenthal
Roy Blunt
John Andrew Boehner
Clint Bolick
John Bolton
Pat Boone
Neal Boortz
Max Boot
James Paul David "Jim" Bunning
George Walker Bush
John Ellis "Jeb" Bush
Carl Cameron
Kirk Thomas Cameron
Andrew "Andy" Card
Gerald Posner Carmen
Clarence Saxby Chambliss
John P.H. "Pecker Head" Chandler
Richard Bruce "Still Dick" Cheney
Thomas Leo Clancy
Thomas Allen "Tom" Coburn
Roy Cohn
Norman Bertram "Norm" Coleman
John Cornyn III
Ann Hart Coulter
Toby Keith Covel
Larry "Wide Stance" Craig
Dinesh D'Souza
Thomas Dale "Tom," "The Hammer" DeLay
Steven James Doocy
Charles Gwynne "Chuck" Douglas III
John Mathias Engler
Donald Louis Evans
Jerry Lamon Falwell
Don Feder
Douglas J. Feith
Jim Finnegan
Bryan Fischer
Malcolm Stevenson "Steve" Forbes
Yoshihiro Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich
Rudolph Wiliam Louis "Rudy" Giuliani
Alan Gottlieb
William Franklin "Billy" Graham
William Franklin Graham
William Phillip "Phil" Gramm
Lee Greenwood
Judd Gregg
Sean Hannity
Paul Harvey
Dennis Hastert
John Edgar Hoover
Brit Hume
Asa Hutchinson
Young Timothy Hutchinson
David R. Ignatius
Laura Anne Ingraham
Frederick Walter Kagan
Robert Kagan
Joyce Kaufman
Francis Anthony Keating
Ronald Kessler
Alan Lee Keyes
Brian Kilmeade
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David Koch}:
William "Bill" Kristol
Jon Llewellyn Kyle
Wayne LaPierre
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Irve Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Joseph Isidore "Joe" Lieberman
David Limbaugh
Rush Hudson Limbaugh III
William "Bill" Loeb III
Chester Trent Lott, Sr.
Frank I. Luntz
David Martin McIntosh
Joseph "Joe" McQuaid
Gerald McRaney
Michael Medved
John Luigi Mica
Don Nickles
Grover Glenn Norquist
Theodore Anthony "Ted" Nugent
William "Bill" O'Reilly
Patrick Jake "PJ" O'Rourke
Marvin Olasky
John M. Olin
Ted Olson
Richard Norman Perle
James Danforth "Dan" Quayle
Michael Reagan
Ralph Eugene Reed, Jr.
Robert James "Kid Rock" Ritchie
Marion Gordon "Pat" Robertson
Willard Mitt Romney
Karl Christian Rove
Marco Antonio Rubio
Antonin Gregory Scalia
Charles Joseph "Joe" Scarborough
Todd Andrew Schnitt
Melvin Floyd "Mel" Sembler
Richard Craig Shelby
Alan Kooi Simpson
Francis Albert "Frank" Sinatra
Willard Cleon Skousen
Robert Anthony "Tony" Snow
Britney Jean Spears
Sylvester Gardenzio "Sly" Stallone
Kenneth Winston Starr
Michael Stephen Steele
Benjamin Jeremy "Ben" Stein
Mark Steyn
David Alan Stockman
Roger Stone
Thomas Gerard "Tom" Tancredo
James Taranto
Clarence Thomas
Fred Thompson
Meldrim "Mel" Thomson
Donn Tibbetts
Clyde Anderson Tolson
Robert Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.
Jon Vincent Voight
Christopher "Chris" Wallace
John P. Walters
John "Duke" Wayne
John Vincent "Vin" Weber
Michael Alan "Michael Savage" Weiner
William Floyd "Bill" Weld
George Frederick Will
Walter Winchell
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz
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In November 1962, at the age of 21, Cheney was convicted of driving while intoxicated (DWI). He was arrested for DWI again the following year.[23] Cheney said that the arrests made him "think about where I was and where I was headed. I was headed down a bad road if I continued on that course."[24]
In 1964, he married Lynne Vincent, his high school sweetheart, whom he had met at age 14.
When Cheney became eligible for the draft, during the Vietnam War, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer George C. Wilson interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service."[25] Cheney testified during his confirmation hearings in 1989 that he received deferments to finish a college career that lasted six years rather than four, owing to sub-par academic performance and the need to work to pay for his education. Upon graduation, Cheney was eligible for the draft, but at the time, the Selective Service System was not inducting married men.[26] On October 26, 1965, the draft was expanded to include married men without children; Cheney's first daughter, Elizabeth, was born 9 months and two days later.[27][26] Cheney's fifth and final deferment granted him "3-A" status, a "hardship" deferment available to men with dependents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.[27]
In 1966 Cheney dropped out of the doctoral program at the University of Wisconsin to work as staff aide for Gov. Warren Knowles.[28]
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panama, gulf war 1, somalia (blk hawk down), bosnia
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When the United States entered its war of choice in Iraq in 2003, its most vocal advocates were those who had, in their youth, figured out a way to avoid military service entirely or, in the case of President George W. Bush or Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, get themselves assigned to duties that ensured they would never see combat — appropriately earning themselves the derisory nickname “chickenhawks.” Many, such as former Vice President Dick Cheney, continue to beat down non-military solutions to increasingly non-military problems, unabashed and undeterred by the lessons of recent history.
But now, more than a dozen years later, it seems we have a new brood of chickenhawks. This election cycle, only two of the 16 Republican contenders — Texas Gov. Rick Perry and South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham — have a service record, and both of them are so far down in the polls that Perry has decided to quit the race. The rest of the field’s lack of experience and knowledge, however, hasn’t stopped the all but obligatory stream of bluster.
At last month’s Republican presidential debate, Senator Ted Cruz seemed to think he knew more than outgoing Joint Chiefs Chairman General Martin Dempsey,who told him that the key means to beating the Islamic State were not primarily military. Cruz superciliously dismissed this as “nonsense” without offering an alternative game plan. He joined others in defiance of retiring Army Chief of Staff General Ray Odierno’s assertion that it could take another decade or two to get rid of the Islamic State. At the same event, Rand Paul posed that “one of the ways we stop them is by not funding them, and not arming them.” And Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, has spouted off about how much more “militaristic” he is than the others, as if it were a badge of honor, while claiming he finds his foremost military advice on Sunday morning talk shows. (His prescription for the problem, he
on Fox News, is to just “knock the hell out of them, take the oil.”)
Military service is not necessarily a prerequisite for being an effective wartime president, but it has been an asset in gaining the Republican nomination: Since 1952, every Republican presidential nominee except Mitt Romney had some military experience under his belt.
But all the tough-talk and bravado demonstrates how little this new group of commander-in-chief wannabes know about national strategy and modern warfare....
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Opinion
EDITORIAL
Lindsey Graham’s Curious Military Career
By The Editorial Board
Aug. 4, 2015
By all accounts, including his own, Senator Lindsey Graham was a good military lawyer during the six and a half years he spent on active duty in the Air Force before he entered politics.
Since leaving active duty in 1989 and joining the Air Force Reserve, Mr. Graham, a Republican from South Carolina who is running for president, appears to have performed very little substantive work for the Air Force. Yet, he rose in rank to colonel and remained in the service until his retirement in June, which entitles him to a monthly $2,773 pension.
An article by Craig Whitlock of The Washington Post shows that though Mr. Graham did very little in the reserve, it was a mutually beneficial arrangement: He was able to keep the honor of the uniform intertwined with his political life and the Air Force got to keep a lawmaker in its ranks who had stature and sway on Capitol Hill. Mr. Graham, a conservative hawk, sits on the Senate appropriations, armed services, budget and judiciary committees.
ImageSenator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina at his military retirement ceremony in June.
Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina at his military retirement ceremony in June.
Credit...Matt McClain/The Washington Post, via Getty Images
The senator has peddled an embellished, and at times inaccurate, narrative of his service in the reserve. A campaign video, which features several photos of Mr. Graham in uniform, says he “served as a reserve duty officer in Iraq and Afghanistan.” In fact, Mr. Graham’s war zone tours consisted of specially arranged stints that lasted a few days and coincided with trips he made as part of congressional delegations.
Until early this year, Mr. Graham’s official biographies said he had served as senior instructor at the Judge Advocate General’s School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. In fact, Mr. Graham told The Post he never set foot at the base or taught there. “I never took time to change it,” he said of the biographies. “I probably should have.”
It was not a one-time lapse. In 1998, Mr. Graham was criticized for claiming to be a veteran of the Persian Gulf War, even though he never deployed as part of that campaign. The Post also found that from 1995 to 2005, he put in 108 hours of training, less than a day and a half each year, on average.
There is nothing wrong with lawmakers serving as reservists, but there is no reason they should be treated differently from other reservists. The extraordinary arrangement Mr. Graham enjoyed calls into question his ability as a member of Congress to carry out oversight of the military.
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/16/the-new-chickenhawks-peace-debate-military-service/
When the United States entered its war of choice in Iraq in 2003, its most vocal advocates were those who had, in their youth, figured out a way to avoid military service entirely or, in the case of President George W. Bush or Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, get themselves assigned to duties that ensured they would never see combat — appropriately earning themselves the derisory nickname “chickenhawks.” Many, such as former Vice President Dick Cheney, continue to beat down non-military solutions to increasingly non-military problems, unabashed and undeterred by the lessons of recent history.
But now, more than a dozen years later, it seems we have a new brood of chickenhawks. This election cycle, only two of the 16 Republican contenders — Texas Gov. Rick Perry and South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham — have a service record, and both of them are so far down in the polls that Perry has decided to quit the race. The rest of the field’s lack of experience and knowledge, however, hasn’t stopped the all but obligatory stream of bluster.
At last month’s Republican presidential debate, Senator Ted Cruz seemed to think he knew more than outgoing Joint Chiefs Chairman General Martin Dempsey, who told him that the key means to beating the Islamic State were not primarily military. Cruz superciliously dismissed this as “nonsense” without offering an alternative game plan. He joined others in defiance of retiring Army Chief of Staff General Ray Odierno’s assertion that it could take another decade or two to get rid of the Islamic State. At the same event, Rand Paul posed that “one of the ways we stop them is by not funding them, and not arming them.” And Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, has spouted off about how much more “militaristic” he is than the others, as if it were a badge of honor, while claiming he finds his foremost military advice on Sunday morning talk shows. (His prescription for the problem, he on Fox News, is to just “knock the hell out of them, take the oil.”)
Military service is not necessarily a prerequisite for being an effective wartime president, but it has been an asset in gaining the Republican nomination: Since 1952, every Republican presidential nominee except Mitt Romney had some military experience under his belt.
But all the tough-talk and bravado demonstrates how little this new group of commander-in-chief wannabes know about national strategy and modern warfare.
But all the tough-talk and bravado demonstrates how little this new group of commander-in-chief wannabes know about national strategy and modern warfare.
Calling for more of the same thing in the same places, despite the obvious drawbacks of military-first methods of managing peace and security in the Middle East and Africa threatens to erode the competence of the United States to wield influence in the world. Scrapping the nuclear non-proliferation agreement with Iran in pursuit of a mythological “better deal” unicorn or a military option, is an ideological fantasy — despite former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak’s admission on Israeli Channel 2 Television that his country refrained from attacking Iranian nuclear sites, apparently due to the high risk of failure.
Rather than abandon habits and assumptions of what leadership means that simply no longer work, these political candidates need to understand what many in the military have learned the hard way – that Americans need to think very differently about peace, war, and especially the spaces in between — exactly where the United States happens to be. Now more than ever, the face of America’s engagement with the world must be through the application of soft power and the implication of hard power.
They also need to understand that the world has changed since the good old days when it seemed that all the United States needed to do to impose its will was send in the Marines.
Whoever takes over the White House in January 2017 needs to understand that foreign and security policy is more difficult in its execution than its conceptualization — you can’t just turn solutions to complex problems on like a light switch. As the mass migration of refugees into Europe illustrates, peace in one country is closely connected to broader security concerns, and it is important to understand conflicts both strategically and geographically. This is one of the many reasons why the United States needs to maintain a robust, seasoned, and well-connected operational diplomacy and development capacity, which can work in tandem with the peacebuilding community and other members of the private sector.
In the Middle East, the geopolitical landscape of the region is likely changing into a tri-fold power system, as Steven Metz of the Army Strategic Studies Institute wrote in July’s Word Politics Review. One is led by the Saudis to maintain the legacy of monarchies and national authoritarians. The other, led by Iran, is the Shiite counterpart to that. The third, led by the Islamic State, is the extremist, reactionary genie of instability the United States helped let out of the bottle, challenging both of the other visions of the region.
“Americans will not like this new Middle Eastern order because the United States will not control it,” Metz concluded. “Despite all the talk we are likely to hear during the upcoming presidential campaign about reasserting American ‘leadership’ in the region, the changes that have taken place are not simply a matter of presidential will,” he wrote, “but a reflection of deep and permanent structural factors.”
One reason why Odierno may have been right is that the Islamic State appears to be on a better learning curve than either U.S. presidential candidates or the current administration — discovering that whoever gets to the gaps in delivering essential public services and providing governance at the local level will be the true winners in the epic struggles of identity now taking place in the Middle East, Central Asia, and Africa. It seems now, as an article last month in West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s journal cited, that the Islamic State has installed a “bureaucratic system [with] a level of complexity and professionalism that probably makes the Islamic State sustainable, even under containment.” But seeing how the center of gravity of modern peace and conflict has evolved also requires a little look at history.
World War I was the last major war in which most casualties were military. From World War II on, as many as four-fifths of them have been civilians. As irregular warfare gained precedence, the center of gravity of modern armed conflict has likewise decentralized. In a flatter, more interconnected world, the power is in the people. So what military professionals like Dempsey and Odierno have come to realize is that the solutions to the peace-wars of today are not primarily found in their profession. If the center of gravity of such conflicts is in the communities violent extremist groups are vying for control of, then the way to gain access to and influence these populations (and deny them to the enemy) is more through the promotion of local governance and civil society than at gunpoint. The latter only helps to seize the ground — the former helps to hold it.
If going after the drivers of conflict and instability rather than the threats emanating from them is really the game at hand, that requires a capability found less in the military and more resident in agencies like the State Department and the chronically under-resourced U.S. Agency for International Development and its NGO partners. In contemporary conflict management, military power is supporting and not supported. The way to defeat the likes of the Islamic State is not to wage war against their fighters as much as to wage peace against the sources of their power.
In fairness, it’s not just the Republicans who are struggling to grasp this. Even Hillary Clinton, as far back as her interview with The Atlantic, has sought to set herself apart from the Obama administration’s foreign policy approach and allowed herself to be described as more “hawkish” and “muscular” than her former boss. Even in her support for the nuclear deal with Iran, she emphasized she would not “hesitate to take military action” if Iran violated the agreement.
Earlier this summer, the Alliance for Peacebuilding (where I am a senior fellow) and nearly 40 other partners such as World Vision sent the White House a statement urging the administration to modify its Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) agenda put together in February and currently being discussed again. While the statement welcomed the shift in emphasis on community-led measures to subvert the sources of extremism, it admonished that the strategy “risks repeating the same mistakes as other post-9/11 stabilization initiatives.”
The subordination of development assistance to bad-guy bashing is clearly counterproductive. Military capabilities, the statement went on, “are ill-suited to address either the drivers or entrepreneurs of violence. Eighty-three percent of terrorist movements ended between 1968 and 2006 were done so through eventual political settlements or improvements in policing.”
Training local armed groups has also met with little success. In the CIA’s entire history, a presidentially mandated study last year concluded, there was only one example of success in fighting fire with fire: when the U.S. trained the mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets — which then of course resulted in the Taliban. Even the Pentagon’s half-billion dollar program to train and equip Syrian rebels to fight the Islamic State (rather than the Assad regime) has been scrapped in tacit admission of failure.
It’s the focus and context that have been the problem. “Instead of selling weapons to unpopular governments in an effort to win a monopoly of force, the U.S. should tackle corruption and human rights abuses in an effort to win a monopoly of legitimacy,” Dr. Lisa Schirch, Director of Human Security at the Alliance for Peacebuilding and contributor to the statement told me. Harnessing civilian capabilities to go after the primarily civilian causes of conflict is more than feel-good; it’s sound strategy.
Even if the Obama administration went for all the statement’s recommendations, however, American capabilities to end and prevent wars are, to put it mildly, underdeveloped compared to those to wage them — and the United States continues to get what it pays for. Diplomacy more than development, as recently retired ambassador Chas W. Freeman explained in a June missive in The American Conservative, is more politicized than professionalized.
To one degree or another, Freeman argues, as many as one-third of leading non-military national security functions are habitually staffed with “short-term political appointees selected to reward not their knowledge, experience, or skill but campaign contributions, political sycophancy, affiliation with domestic interest groups, academic achievements, success in fields unrelated to diplomacy, or social prominence.”
As the debates continue, the candidates from both parties should more seriously heed the tremendous responsibility any chief executive has to commit the nation’s blood and treasure as sparingly as possible. “The test of a great nation, with the most powerful military on earth,” Bernie Sandersvideo 404 the Senate with respect to the agreement with Iran, “is not how many wars we can engage in but how we can use our strength and capabilities to resolve international conflicts in a peaceful way.”
During and after World War II, U.S. presidents led the nation against its isolationist tendencies because they knew that the fate of the country was inextricably linked to that of others. They also sought to exercise American power through inspiration more than intimidation. Once again, the United States is at a crossroads calling for leadership that can overcome similar inertia, that sees America abroad being about more than its military power, and that plays to the nation’s strengths rather than obsesses about its perceived weaknesses. Real leaders, as President Dwight D. Eisenhower observed, do not “glibly talk of another war.”
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The 5 worst chicken hawks in the GOP
Marco Rubio. Rick Santorum. Ted Cruz. All are itching to invade Iraq, and none have served in the military
ADAM JOHNSON
JUNE 6, 2015
This article originally appeared on AlterNet.
As the GOP’s 2016 cast of men who would be president grows, so too do its ranks of chicken hawks—candidates who have never served in the military but are eager send American men and women into wars overseas. While it’s no surprise that these Republicans are feeding off each other in a feedback loop of one-upmanship, this latest round of boasting is not occurring in a vacuum. The U.S., as the world's largest military force, faces many major challenges in the coming years —not just ISIS in the Middle East, but also China enlarging its maritime borders.
What follows are profiles of five candidates who are chicken hawks. None have served in the military but they all - unlike Obama - are willing to deploy ground troops overseas to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Other Republicans running similarly have puffed out their warmongering chests, such as Scott Walker saying that he would take on ISIS like he bullied Wisconsin’s public employee unions and Jeb Bush endorsing W’s invasion of Iraq. Lindsey Graham also is calling for 10,000 ground troops, but he served in the military. These five haven’t:
1. Marco Rubio
On CNN’s The Lead last September, Rubio made it clear ground troops would “likely be needed” to “finish the job” on ISIS. He said, "The chances of local forces alone being able to defeat ISIL, or any group for that matter on the ground is dubious at best… It's important for the President to be honest with the American people that at some point in the future, this might require some element of U.S. ground power in order to finish the job."
The Florida Senator quickly earned the respect of the hawkish wing of the foreign policy establishment, especially the neocons that got us into Iraq for spouting the right bellicose talking points. Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to know that Iran - despite being a favorite punching bag of this same neocon set - is a mortal enemy of ISIS, not in alliance with it. As Think Progress noted:
Speaking before the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Maryland, Rubio told radio and TV host Sean Hannity that “if we wanted to defeat [ISIS] militarily,we could do it. [Obama] doesn’t want to upset Iran…”
There’s just one problem: Iran has been fighting ISIS just like the United States and has publicly urged America to take a larger role in the operation. Obama has even sent a letter to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei suggesting anti-ISIS cooperation.
What’s scary is that for many foreign policy experts, he’s considered the intelligent one in Republican circles.Meanwhile, what he did during his Military age years (18-35)? Like the others on this list, Rubio spent his military-age years, well, running for President. He attended law school, interned for Florida U.S. Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, worked on the Dole-Kemp campaign and eventually got elected to the Florida House of Representatives in 2000, and rose to become Speaker of the Florida House.
The wars Rubio decided not to fight in include: Gulf War, Bosnian War, Kosovo War, War in Afghanistan and Iraq War. The American troops killed in those conflicts totaled 7,041.
- Rick Santorum
The former Pennsylvania U.S. Senator, Christian evangelical, and winner of the 2012 Iowa Caucuses wants to send the troops back to Iraq: Santorum is straddling the fence between the GOP’s “small government” Tea Party and the “Muslims are coming for us all” tension at the heart of the current GOP foreign policy orthodoxy. He’s called for Obama to “double” the amount of “advisers” to Iraq to look tough without offending libertarians who are weary of war. According to Bloomberg News:
Santorum, speaking on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show, said he’s “not talking about a massive invasion force” just about doubling the 3,000 now on the ground in Iraq. “I’m not talking about front line troops here,” he said. “If we don’t start winning the war against ISIS my fear is we are going to see casualties here in the United States.”
So 3,000 more “advisors”, to Santorum, is the existential difference between attacks on the homeland and containing the enemy overseas. Santorum also believes that the U.S. should use more military muscle in the Ukraine to push back Russia.
During his military-service age years, he also focused on building a career as a lawyer and politician, skipping the Gulf War.
3. Ted Cruz
Texas Senator Ted Cruz is trying to thread the same needle as Santorum. He’s a Tea Party favorite, where 86% think ISIS can launch a “major attack” on U.S. soil. His solution: set the table for ground troops in Iraq and Syria “if need be” to “accomplish the mission.” He told ABC News:
"The mission should be defeating ISIS before they succeed in carrying out more horrific acts of terror, before they succeed in murdering Americans. If need be, we should go that step," Cruz told "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos when asked whether U.S. troops on the ground should be considered.
When Cruz was of enlistment age, he groomed himself to be an anti-elitist “small government” conservative by attending Ivy league schools where he was a debate champion and then ladder-climbing in the GOP establishment, first clerking at the U.S. Supreme Court and then returning to Texas to work as a special prosecutor. Cruz could have honed his military credential in the Gulf War, Bosnian War, Kosovo War, War in Afghanistan and Iraq War. Instead, his chosen weapon is a verbal barb.
4. Chris Christie
Like Rubio, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has been ingratiating himself with the more traditional, neoconservative wing of the party, recently calling for an expansion of the military and a defense of bulk data collection by spy agencies. In April, he told the Military Times that he would take it one step further, rejecting the Obama White House’s efforts to negotiate a nuclear deal with Iran and opening up the door for more ground troops in Iraq:
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Wednesday the emerging nuclear pact with Iran will lead to it having nuclear weapons and to an even more dangerous Middle East. He also said he'd be open to putting U.S. soldiers "into the fight" against the Islamic State group if necessary.
Military service also was the last thing on Christie’s mind in his military age years. He worked for corporate law firm Dughi, Hewit & Palatucci and launched his political career as the state coordinator for George H. W. Bush’s 1992 campaign. After returning to corporate lobbying, he was appointed by then-president George W. Bush (where he also worked) as U.S. Attorney for New Jersey. He skipped the Gulf War and the Bosnian War.
5. George Pataki
“Who?” you may be asking, about the most recent entry into the GOP’s 2016 field. Former New York State Gov. George Pataki left professional politics in 2006 - the same year our current President was elected to the Senate. None the less, he’s running for President, has some old-school Rockefeller Republican support, and wants to send our largely poor military class to fight ISIS. Pataki told CNN last month:
"But send in troops, destroy their training centers, destroy their recruitment centers, destroy the area where they are looking to plan to attack us here and then get out."
The fight against ISIS “is our war,” Pataki said, brushing off Americans may be wary of sending troops back into combat. He’s also tried to distance himself from the congressional Republicans who sent a letter to Iran dismissing Obama’s nuclear negotiations, telling AM 970 New York he “probably wouldn’t have sent” the infamous letter to Iran. In other words, the “sensible” guy in the race is just calling for deploying troops in Iraq.
Pataki is older than these other chicken hawks and could have served in Vietnam. He entered Yale the same year as George W. Bush, where he led the Conservative Party of the Yale Political Union. He later got his law degree from Columbia and went to work as corporate lawyer, where he made connections that helped him launch his political career as mayors of Peekskill, NY.
Would-Be Warriors Who Don’t Know War
The outbreak of chicken hawks among our political class is a recurring trend that has only gotten worse. The more those sending our largely poor classes off to war have little first hand experience in what they are being asked to do, the greater the likelihood of tragic mistakes. While military service doesn’t, of course, make one more dovish - the perpetually belligerent John McCain disproves this assumption - it perhaps gives some pause. Some perspective. Or, at the very least, it doesn’t entirely divorce the consequences of war from those who level it.
As a 2013 pew survey noted,“Not all that long ago, military service was practically a requirement for serving in Congress. The high point in recent decades was the 95th Congress (1977-78) when, following an influx of Vietnam-era veterans, a combined 77% of the House and Senate had served in the armed forces. But as World War II veterans have retired and relatively few Americans enlist in the all-volunteer armed forces, veterans account for a smaller and smaller share of Congress.” The current total? 20%.
And so it goes for our current lot of candidates. Perhaps having more combat veterans in our pool wouldn’t make them less likely to go to war, but it would almost certainly make them less breezy about sending yet another generation of young men and women to Iraq to fight for a war whose objective remains uncertain and whose timetable remains seemingly indefinite.
ADAM JOHNSON
Adam Johnson is a contributing analyst for FAIR.org.
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2. *Reluctant Warriors*. No and Yes. These were people who thought no American should have to go and fight—but that if anyone had to go, they should be willing to do so as well. Al Gore is an obvious example. He opposed the war as a college student but nonetheless joined the Army and went to Vietnam, though he was not in combat there. The closest hometown friend of mine who was killed in Vietnam,Christopher Warren Morgens (who was in the same Harvard class as Gore), was in this category, too. As a matter of character, bravery, and patriotism, you could argue that this group is the most admirable of all.
3. Consistent Non-Warriors. No and No. These were people who thought that no Americans should be going off to fight in Vietnam, and that the “no one” should apply to themselves too. This was my own category. As a college student in the late 1960s I was part of the out-of-Vietnam movement, and like many other college students I did my best to keep myself out, too. The brutal fact that it was easier, for opponents of the war, to keep themselves from being involved than to change the whole nation’s policy left this group with its moral ambiguity. Back in the 1970s I wrote a Washington Monthly article called “What Did You Do in the Class War, Daddy?” about the way the college-educated averted their eyes from who was going to war in their stead. But at least they—we—had some logical consistency to their position. We didn’t want to go, and we didn’t want others to go either. Bill Clinton would be in this group.
A variant that straddles several categories would be those who served but in a way calculated to keep them out of Vietnam or combat. The National Guard berths of Dan Quayle and George W. Bush fit this pattern—as, it seems clear, did the Marine Corps reserve service of Richard Blumenthal. (Blumenthal’s varying accounts of his service are another matter.)
4. The Chickenhawks. Yes and No. These are the people who thought: Someone should be over there fighting. But it shouldn’t be me.
Until recently Dick Cheney, he of the pro-war views and the multiple deferments, had been the most politically prominent representative of this category. Now of course it is Donald Trump: star high school athlete, spared from service because of unspecified foot problems, now criticizing other public figures for their war records.
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War is hell, and as the upcoming Burns-Novick documentary shows, the U.S. participation in Vietnam left moral murkyness all around it. Each person weighs the rights and wrongs of what he or she did—“he” much more than she in those days, since women were not subject to the draft or exposed to combat. (But many thousands of American women served as nurses and in other functions in Vietnam; the memorial wall lists the namesof eight who were killed.)
Through the murk, though, one line shines bright and clear. Even as the United States becomes more and more a “chickenhawk nation”—always at war, but with only a tiny sliver of the country doing the fighting—it’s the line that individual chickenhawks should respect. No one wants to hear them criticizing others for their war decisions, not even via Twitter from the golf course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)
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A Brief History
On March 24, 1958, Elvis Aron Presley, the “King of Rock and Roll,” was drafted into the U.S. Army and served his country in Germany, on the front lines of the Cold War. Millions of Americans have been drafted and responded obediently, and, of course, millions more have served voluntarily. On the other hand, many American men of draft age or at least of age to serve during a war or conflict chose not to defend their country with their own blood but stayed on the sidelines, only later to pretend to be patriots. Most of these phony patriots also kept their own kids out of the military as well. Here 10 such individuals are listed.
Digging Deeper
- George W. Bush.
Former President of the United States, this macho warhawk avoided the draft during the Viet Nam War by getting a valued slot in the National Guard, done only with string pulling as all slots had been filled. The icing on the cake is that he even failed to serve that commitment properly and was allowed to leave service early. Privilege must be nice…
George W. Bush only ranks #10 because he at least kind of served, and we want to make it absolutely clear that there is certainly nothing inherently dishonorable about serving in the National Guard, although the actual nature of his particular service has been called into question by impartial journalists around the world. For more information on this entry as covered by mainstream media sources from The United Kingdom to The United States, please see “The Curious Mystery of George W. Bush’s Vietnam War” by Suzanne Goldenberg and Oliver Burkeman of The Guardian and “George W. Bush’s Military Lies: The Real Story About the Undeniable Service Gaps He Got Away With” by Paul Rosenberg of Salon. For an encyclopedic overview of this controversial topic, please see “George W. Bush military service controversy“.
- Rudy Giuliani.
This guy once said recently of President Obama, “I do not believe the President loves America.” Well, neither does Rudy as he repeatedly sought and got deferments from the draft, having strings pulled to keep him undrafted even though he had a 1A status (highest, unrestricted draft category) and a high draft number. (How he pulled this off is unknown.) Despite hiding from the war, Giuliani is quite vocal about wanting to use American force every time the subject comes up. Additionally, following the September 11 attacks, he falsely reassured citizens and ground zero workers that the air in New York was safe when it was indeed full of asbestos and other contaminants. Mayor “Mr. Law and Order” also used police officers getting city overtime to drive him to his mistress and provided her with a city police chauffeur service.
- Mitt Romney.
This conservative leader of the Republican party does not hesitate to talk tough about throwing around American military might and bitterly criticizes President Obama for failing to be more decisive with America’s enemies. For himself, however, he fled to Europe when of draft-eligible age to work as a missionary, tooling around France on his bicycle, returning to the U.S. when it was “safe.”
- Ted Nugent.
This tough-talking, gun-totin’ rascal told the magazine High Times in a 1977 interview that he avoided the draft during Viet Nam by taking crystal meth and pooping his pants. He confirmed this story to the Detroit Free Press in 1990, saying he used the inside of his pants as his bathroom for a week to purposely fail the physical. Nugent later denied this, saying he got his deferment by enrolling in college, but that is not true as his actual deferments for 1969 and 1972 were for physical, psychological or moral reasons. It seems he strongly believes in our rights, just not that they are worth fighting for on his part.
- Bruce Springsteen
He acted wacky at his induction physical to get a 4F rating and therefore be able to avoid the draft, something he told Rolling Stone in 1984, saying that his thoughts at the time were, “I aint going.” Do not be fooled by his unemployed veteran’s lament “Born in the USA.” “The Boss” did not serve and wanted it that way.
- Newt Gingrich.
President Clinton’s archenemy and most vocal critic, Gingrich pulled the same trick to avoid the draft that Clinton did (see below) and topped off his hypocrisy by engaging in an extra-marital affair while lambasting Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky incident. Of course, this chickenhawk is all gung-ho about committing U.S. armed forces to combat anywhere and everywhere, just not when it involves him or his kids.
- Bill Clinton.
Although not as hawkish as some of those listed, Clinton did use American military in Yugoslavia and Somalia although he himself avoided the draft during the Viet Nam War Years by pretending to sign up for ROTC, a college-based military officer training program, a legal but sneaky ruse at the time. The is the type of thing a weasel would and did do. Oddly enough, he gained the presidency at the expense of George H. W. Bush who had served as a pilot during World War II and even got shot down. In 1996, Clinton was reelected after he beat World War II hero Bob Dole. (Obviously, military service means little when the election of presidents is concerned.)
- Muhammad Ali.
This “Mr. Tough Guy” heavyweight boxing champ refused to serve when drafted even though, by his own admission, his new religion (Nation of Islam) did not preclude it. A couple of the men who would go on to beat Ali for the championship, Ken Norton and Leon Spinks, served in the Marine Corps. (So did I.)
- Dick Cheney.
An outspoken hawk of a congressman, Secretary of Defense and Vice President, Cheney repeatedly obtained waivers to avoid being drafted while younger but did not hesitate to send other people’s kids to war. It is believed by many critics that Cheney was the driving force behind the disastrous decision to invade Iraq in 2003. Thanks, Dick.
- John Wayne.
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Abrams, Eliot, Did not serve.
Convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran/Contra affair, now a National Security Council staffer. (How many of these crooked bastards would actually be in jail, as opposed to in high office, if they were subject to the same laws and moral standards as the rest of us?)
Ailes, Roger, Faux News Fuehrer. Did not serve.
Alexander, Lamar (R - TN) Vanderbilt University and New York University Law School during Vietnam era. Did not serve
Allard, Wayne (R - CO) Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine from Colorado State University during Vietnam era. Did not serve.
Allen, George (R - VA) Did not serve.
Armey, Dick, Former House Majority Leader (R-TX) Avoided the draft, did not serve.
Famous for referring to Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank as "Barney Fag" and his opinion that certain religions are "not real religions." Also believes that Palestinians living in the West Bank should be removed. Makes Karl Rove seem like Albert Schweitzer.
Ashcroft, John, Former Witchfinder General (R) Did not serve - academic deferments.
Seven (count 'em) deferments to study and teach Business during the Vietnam era. Probably too busy with his personal war on Beelzebub.
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Bauer, Gary,Republican think-tanker (R) Did not serve.
This former joke presidential candidate and "ouramericanvalues.org" nobhead got a 1-Y draft classification for an undisclosed physical problem (he is technically a sideshow midget). Bennett, Bill, (R - UT) Former Secretary of Education (R) Did not serve - academic deferment.
Chairman of Americans for Victory over Terrorism and, laughably, the author of "Why We Fight: Moral Clarity and the War on Terrorism," recently re-released and updated in (easier to wipe your ass on) paperback.
Bond, Christopher (R - MO) Princeton University, University of Virginia Law School. Assistant attorney general of Missouri during Vietnam era. Did not serve.
Bloomberg, Michael, Republican New York Mayor and billionaire. Did not serve.
Blunt, Roy, House Majority Whip (R-MO) Did not serve - academic deferment.
His BA in history was, presumably, of paramount national importance. Fought valiantly for Bush’s $1.35 trillion tax cut according to his homepage biography.
Bolton, John, Arms Control adviser to the Bush Administration (R) Did not serve.
Mustachioed freak accused of coercing his wife into wife swinger orgies and Chimpy's best choice for UN Ambassador in 2004.
Date-Of-Birth:
November 20, 1948
Home State:
Maryland
Missed Opportunity:
Vietnam War
Excuse:
None whatsoever
Preferred Activity:
Weekend Warrioring
Occupation:
Mustache Cultivator
This belligerent flamer actually had the nerve to write in his Yale 25th reunion book, "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy. I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."
Offensive as that is — who the hell did you think wanted to die like that, John? — he managed to top it with this: "by the time I was about to graduate in 1970, it was clear to me that opponents of the Vietnam War had made it certain we could not prevail, and that I had no great interest in going there to have Teddy Kennedy give it back to the people I might die to take it away from."
Try selling that line to Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
Bodmon, Samuel W., Secretary of Energy. Did not serve.
Bremer III, Louis Paul, Did not serve - academic deferment.
After entering the diplomatic service in 1966, his career highlight was to serve as Deputy Ambassador to Norway from 1976 to 1979. This background, coupled with his ability to speak French, Dutch, and Norwegian, made him ideally suited for the job of heading the Provisional Coalition Authority (CPA) in occupied Iraq.
Brownback, Sam (R - KS) Did not serve. Too young for Vietnam, served Daddy Bush Administration during first Gulf War. Opposes embryonic stem cell research, gay marriage, and abortion (which he once likened to the Holocaust). Favors capital punishment and is still a big favorite of conservative Christians despite getting busted for accepting dirty money from Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist accused of defrauding Native American tribes.
Buchanan, Pat, Former Republican presidential aspirant and Reform Party Candidate Did not serve - medical deferment.
A handy 4-F for a bad knee, but an avid jogger to this day. Famous for his forthright opinions such as: "...Hitler was also an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank..." (Patrick Buchanan, Chicago Tribune, August 25, 1977)
Bunning, Jim (R - KY) Hall of Fame pitcher in Major League Baseball from 1955 to 1971. Did not serve.
Bush, George W., Generalissimo (R-TX) No active service. Beer-bonged through Vietnam in the Texas Air National Guard thanks to Daddy. AWOL after mandatory drug testing was introduced in 1972.
Burns, Conrad (R - MT) No active service. Although posted to Vietnam while serving in the Marine Corps, he was eight years early for the war. In September, 2005, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Burns one of the thirteen most corrupt members of Congress.
Burr, Richard (R - NC) Did not serve.
Bush, Jeb, Florida Governor (R-FL) Did not serve.
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Card, Andrew "Andy", Chief of Staff (R) Did not serve.
Was the "the automotive industry’s main voice." Proved his devotion to humanity by lobbying the government against stricter fuel emissions standards and testifying against the Passengers' Bill of Rights. No fighting though....
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