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“President mass surveillance”: Right-leaning media are calling out JD Vance’s ties to Palantir

Amid an emerging divide over mass surveillance, some right-leaning figures are openly uncomfortable with the Trump administration's close links to Palantir

Written by Noah VanDowe & Ben Van Bloem

Published 07/02/26

As the Trump administration expands its use of the tech company Palantir across multiple agencies and departments within the federal government, some right-leaning media figures are expressing anger and fear about a “surveillance state,” placing a particular focus on Vice President JD Vance’s close ties to the Silicon Valley data management company.

Warning of a future “President Palantir,” these right-leaning commentators have slammed Vance as a “pawn” of “the ultimate deep staters” like Palantir co-founders Peter Thiel and Alex Karp. They have also suggested that the goal of such tech companies is to make it so Americans cannot “live or do anything that feels human.” Other conservative figures have dismissed these concerns, arguing they will cause America to “lose” the artificial intelligence race to China.

Vance has deep ties to Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel, whose company the Trump administration tapped for administrative data collection

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05/08/2026

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Kyle Mantyla

The Virginia Supreme Court on Friday struck down a voter-approved Democratic congressional redistricting plan, delivering another major setback to the party in a nationwide battle against Republicans for an edge in this year’s midterm elections.

Former Georgia representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's journalist fiancé, Brian Glenn, is also quitting Washington.

The president himself called into the ceremony to thank the religious leader and guests in attendance.

Former Fox News contributor Sean Duffy revealed that he spent seven months making a reality show while serving the country as Secretary of Transportation.

Vivek Ramaswamy built a political brand casting racism as an obsession of Democrats. As a Republican running for Ohio governor, he’s facing racism on the right.

Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) suggested during an appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast that the CIA could be behind would-be assassins targeting President Donald Trump.

On Jan. 28, the anti-LGBTQ+ hate group Them Before Us led the announcement of the “Greater Than” campaign, an effort to repeal marriage equality. The campaign represents an alliance of at least a dozen anti-LGBTQ+ hate groups and other allied organizations to promote the debunked claim that “gay marriage resulted in child victimization.”

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In recent months, President Donald Trump has received growing criticism from podcaster Joe Rogan due to a combination of the former's policies and dissatisfaction with the wider MAGA movement. Now, reports Axios, the White House is working “aggressively” to bring Rogan back into Trump’s corner.

Rogan’s last-minute endorsement of Trump in the final hours of the 2024 election is often cited as a key factor in determining the outcome, as the host’s podcast is not only the most popular in the world, but has particular sway among young men — a vital bloc in the president’s winning coalition. But in January, Rogan began criticizing Trump for the violent tactics of ICE, questions about the Epstein files, and the decision to launch war against Iran. This came as Rogan was also attacking MAGA in general, saying it is comprised of “weird,” “unintelligent dorks.” None of this bodes well for GOP electoral hopes with the midterms approaching fast.

In an attempt to win Rogan back, the White House has not only been maintaining contact behind the scenes, but has begun pushing policies the podcaster is particularly interested in.

Efforts to “build bridges” with Rogan have involved repeated visits from top administration officials. Vice President JD Vance met Rogan during an RNC fundraising stop in Austin, while Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his advisor Calley Means have appeared on the podcast and maintained contact.

Then on Saturday, Rogan joined the president in the Oval Office for the signing of an executive order that will speed the federal review of psychedelic drugs used to treat severe mental illness. Rogan has been a major proponent of psychedelic therapy over the past decade, and while research and legalization efforts have gained traction in recent years, the executive order was a direct attempt by the administration to woo Rogan back to Trump’s favor.

In recent months, Trump has fallen out with many of his most high-profile, longest-running backers, such as Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones. As MAGA support erodes fast, maintaining Rogan as an ally may prove essential to holding on to the administration’s rapidly dwindling support.

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Joe Rogan gave RFK Jr. a platform to defend the administration’s embrace of glyphosate, but some other MAHA personalities aren’t letting it go so easily

MAHA-friendly Rogan previously emphasized the harms of glyphosate in the herbicide Roundup. A new interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saw Rogan take a far more passive approach.

Special ProgramsClimate & Energy

Written by Ilana Berger

Published 03/16/26

In a February 27 interview with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., podcaster Joe Rogan did not press the secretary on President Donald Trump’s recent executive order boosting the domestic production of the Roundup ingredient glyphosate, nor did he mention that the move, as well as other significant actions, angered MAHA influencers.

The White House’s executive order, which was announced on February 18, calls glyphosate a “cornerstone of this Nation’s agricultural productivity and rural economy.” Using the Defense Production Act, Trump is prioritizing production of glyphosate “over performance of any other contracts or orders” because he argues it is “central to American economic and national security."

For years, Kennedy was a strong opponent of glyphosate, much like the social media figures he was able to add to his coalition during his presidential campaign by promising to “Make America Healthy Again.” Prior to his appointment in the Trump administration, he was part of a legal team that won a lawsuit against Monsanto after “arguing that its Roundup weedkiller contributed to his client’s cancer."

Before this episode, Rogan had also spoken extensively about the harms of glyphosate. He has also praised the MAHA movement and platformed its leaders, and he’s been described as a “walking incubator for supplements" much like other MAHA figures who benefit tremendously from the $1.5 trillion global wellness market.

The executive order — and Kennedy’s support of it — has revealed some fractures in the MAHA-Trump alliance.

In a recent episode of Ask Dr. Drew, conservative host Drew Pinsky interviewed Hands Off My Food! author Dr. Sina McCullough, who has been featured in the MAHA Report newsletter. McCullough said that while she applauds Kennedy’s work, she’s worried that “the corruption, the loopholes that will always be there, the backdoor deals — that's government."

Pinksy echoed her frustration, saying, “The back room deals immediately causes me to wonder, how did we get red food dye back, why is red food dye back? Why is glyphosate back? What happened there? What’s going on?"

Zen Honeycutt, who founded the advocacy group Moms Across America, later told Pinsky that Trump is “sending a message to our legislators that he wants to prioritize glyphosate accessibility in America. … He wants to sort of protect glyphosate and its availability to the farmers, and this is extremely concerning to us.” In the interview, Honeycutt called the executive order “a betrayal."

Meanwhile, on MAHA Media Hub, MAHA Action President Tony Lyons said the Trump administration's support of Bayer in the Roundup lawsuit is a “mistake.”

While these figures are speaking out, Rogan stopped short of demanding accountability.

On his podcast, Rogan gave Kennedy an enormous platform to defend the executive order as a supposedly necessary response to “national security vulnerability” and claim that “we have addicted our farmers to these pesticides” who don't like using it.

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Toward the end of the episode, Rogan asked Kennedy, “What was the recent ruling on glyphosate?"

Kennedy said that it was “not something I was particularly happy with — let me put it that way mildly" and highlighted his work getting “an $11 billion settlement with Monsanto." But he went on to defend the executive order, saying, “I also understand the president's point of view. The president didn't create this system. He's dealing with a problem that was created long before over the past 60 years."

Kennedy also argued that glyphosate is key to national security, because “if you got rid of it or if somebody else cut off our supply, it would destroy the American food system.”

The question came after Rogan claimed earlier in the podcast that he was “watching liberals, the people that are always worried about food ingredients, just dismissing all of this talk about preservatives and glyphosate.”

Some groups that are typically viewed as left-leaning on key issues and receive funding from progressive donors and foundations, such as the Center for Biological Diversity, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Environmental Working Group, and Food & Water Watch, have long been critical of the herbicide. Their advocacy against glyphosate largely predates the MAHA movement.

In the interview, Kennedy also attempted to smooth over the different stances his Make America Healthy Again movement and the agriculture industry take on Roundup. He said that “we’ve got to transition off of glyphosate" and that “the farmers hate it."

“We all understand that this is a huge problem," Kennedy added, before highlighting a “billion-dollar commitment” made by Trump to support farming.

In reality, according to a statement from Modern Ag Alliance, numerous major farming groups including the American Farm Bureau Federation, the American Soybean Association, and the National Corn Growers Association have thanked Trump for the executive order.

The whole conversation stood in stark contrast to a 2023 interview Rogan did with Kennedy prior to his role in the Trump administration, when he himself was running for president. The podcaster asked about glyphosate, and Kennedy discussed the “many, many diseases that are linked to glyphosate exposure” and even suggested that glyphosate exposure may be “one of the reasons we had the highest death rate during COVID." He said that such “chronic disease … is bankrupting us."

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Fast-forward to 2026, and Kennedy is deferring to Trump’s argument about Bayer, which acquired Monsanto in 2018. During the interview, Kennedy said that we do ultimately need to “transition” away from such chemicals but noted that Trump has said “we can't allow the company to go bankrupt."

At no point during the February 2026 interview did Rogan bring up Kennedy’s past campaign promise to put additional limitations on the pre-harvest use of glyphosate.

Rogan also did not mention the response to the executive order, which, as MAHA influencer Vani Hari put it, sparked “a level of anger and frustration like I’ve never seen before.” Hari, who is also known as The Food Babe, and the group Moms Across America have praised Rogan for discussing MAHA-related issues in the past.

This wasn’t the administration’s first slight against MAHA. In January, the Supreme Court agreed toreview a case that could result in limits on Bayer’s liability for failing to warn consumers about Roundup’s cancer risks on labels, and Trump’s Department of Justice filed a brief in support of Bayer.

Recent reporting has also revealed that “less than two weeks ahead of a request" from the Supreme Court for the Trump administration’s Department of Justice to weigh in on whether the court should hear Bayer’s case, Environmental Protection Agency Secretary Lee Zeldin met with Bayer’s CEO “to discuss ‘litigation’ issues — including ‘supreme court action’ over its glyphosate weed killer."

Influencer Kelly Ryerson, also known as Glyphosate Girl, highlighted the reporting on her Instagram page. “Many concerning discussion topics, but perhaps the most concerning is that Bayer planned to thank the EPA for their help updating the glyphosate web page (wonder how) and for working with MAHA," she wrote.

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Rogan complains about glyphosate, then gives the administration a pass by ignoring Trump's recent executive order boosting the herbicide ingredient

Rogan attacked critics of Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has voiced his support for the order

Special ProgramsClimate & Energy

Written by Ilana Berger

Published 02/25/26

Joe Rogan and a podcast guest recently praised Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr. just after complaining about the harms of glyphosate, the controversial herbicide that was recently bolstered in an executive order that Kennedy supported to the ire of the Make America Healthy Again community.

During the February 20 episode of his podcast, Rogan and his guest Matt McCusker, comedian and podcast host, suggested that glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide Roundup, is responsible for rising rates of gluten intolerance. The two then touted some of Kennedy’s actions as health secretary so far.

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They did not mention Kennedy’s support for a recent executive order that would protect domestic production of glyphosate and give it some immunity under the Defense Production Act that could shield its parent company from being sued for certain damages. George Kimbrell, legal director at the Center for Food Safety, told The New Lede that the order “is a transparent attempt to influence the Supreme Court to grant glyphosate-maker Monsanto/Bayer and other pesticide behemoths immunity from liability for the harms caused by their products.” McCusker mentioned that he could not have wheat due to an allergy, and Rogan replied, “A lot of people don't think it's actually the gluten. They think it's actually how they finish the crops with glyphosate, which kind of makes sense because, like, why are all these gluten intolerant — nobody heard about those in the ‘70s. There was no one gluten intolerant.”

Evidence directly linking glyphosate to gluten intolerance, which causes a sensitivity to a protein that’s found in some types of grains, or celiac disease, which causes an autoimmune response to gluten, is limited and hotly disputed by the scientific community. But the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer has labeled the ingredient as a Group 2a carcinogen. A long-term, peer-reviewed study with contributions from research institutions in the U.S. and Europe reinforced the IARC’s findings in 2025.

Eliminating the agriculture industry’s dependence on glyphosate has been a goal of environmental organizations, as well as several groups and influencers whoidentify with the MAHA movement, which is closely associated with Kennedy. Kennedy himself is a long-time critic of glyphosate, and his promise to “ban that practice” during his presidential campaign helped build a voter base that would later throw their support behind the Trump administration.

But Kennedy is now facing backlash for reversing course and supporting a White House executive order that calls glyphosate a “cornerstone of this Nation’s agricultural productivity and rural economy.” Using the National Defense Production Act, Trump is allowing Roundup maker Bayer to prioritize production of the herbicide “over performance of any other contracts or orders” because it is “central to American economic and national security.”

Kennedy said that the order “puts America first where it matters most – our defense readiness and our food supply.” He also wrote on social media: “I support President Trump’s Executive Order to bring agricultural chemical production back to the United States and end our near-total reliance on adversarial nations.”

Rogan and McCusker didn’t mention this important development that has sparked MAHA outrage, even though Rogan has praised the movement and platformed its leaders. Instead, they attacked Kennedy’s critics, saying that “they’d rather commit suicide, they’d rather poison themselves, than admit that he’s right” about some of his other initiatives like changing the food pyramid and attempting to ban Red Dye 40.

Many allege they have already been poisoned by the herbicide Kennedy is now defending. Monsanto, which was acquired by Bayer in 2018, has faced hundreds of thousands of lawsuits from people who say that long-term exposure to glyphosate “caused them to develop non‑Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL) and other serious illnesses,” according to the law firm Wisner and Baum, which represented cancer patients in some of these lawsuits.

The recent executive order is consistent with the Trump administration’s efforts to ease regulations on chemicals and maintain the support of the industry, which has significant influence in the Environmental Protection Agency’s Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention. In December, MAHA influencers spearheaded a petition calling for Trump to oust EPA Secretary Lee Zeldin after the agency approved pesticides that contain several different pesticides that are classified by many as PFAS, or cancer-linked “forever chemicals.”

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Joe Rogan on Trump's 2020 election claims: “I feel like if you say that, you've got to have some, like, really good evidence”

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Fox News contributor and podcaster Brett Cooper attacks Joe Rogan's criticism of mass deportation, saying it's his “**:{toxic empathy speaking”}:

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BRETT COOPER (PODCAST HOST): So I just want to respond to Rogan here because I genuinely feel like he is smarter than this. He obviously is smarter than this. This is just his, you know, toxic empathy speaking, his emotions speaking. And, obviously, anybody with any kind of heart is going to have part of them that feels a tinge of discomfort or empathy when they watch these types of videos, when they know what is happening with ICE on a, you know, on a day to day level. What is happening when they are going into cities and they are deporting people.

But guys, this is what we voted for. There are articles that are coming out now where these podcasters are saying, this isn't what I voted for. I'm sorry. What did you think mass deportations was? This was something that was spoken about every single day. Everybody was in favor of, you know, basically securing our border and cleaning out our country. That's just a very matter of fact way to say it, but we were in favor of this. This was something that Trump talked about on a day to day basis. This is what we voted for.

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Joe Rogan on Jimmy Kimmel's suspension: “I definitely don't think that the government should be involved, ever, in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue. That's fucking crazy.”

Rogan: “The problem is the companies, if they're being pressured by the government, so if that's real, and if people on the right are like, yeah, go get them. Oh my god. You're crazy. You're crazy for supporting this, because this will be used on you.”

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JOE ROGAN (HOST): Speaking of adapting, like this, this whole Jimmy Kimmel situation that is happening right now.

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ROGAN: And so these, what, what you're dealing with even — first of all, I definitely don't think that the government should be involved, ever, in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue. That's fucking crazy.

ANDREW SANTINO (GUEST): It's crazy.

ROGAN: Now, if — the problem is the companies, if they're being pressured by the government, so if that's real, and if people on the right are like, yeah, go get them. Oh my god. You're crazy. You're crazy for supporting this, because this will be used on you.

You don't think that the fucking globalist lizard people who run the world are sitting here going, great. What do we got? Three years? We'll wait this out. We'll wait this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let them say the government should be involved in, in censoring people's speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let 'em support that. Let these fucking dumbasses, because Jimmy Kimmel's a leftist, let these dumbasses think it's a good idea and we should celebrate that.

SANTINO: That's the most toxic shit I keep seeing online, when people are like, yeah, shut them down.

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Study: Most Pro-Trump podcasters support Trump's tariffs but some fractures emerge

Written by Kayla Gogarty, Courtney Hagle & John Whitehouse

Research contributions from Payton Armstrong, Jack Wheatley, Jack Winstanley, Chloe Simon, Pete Tsipis, Gideon Taaffe, Ben Van Bloem, Reed McMaster & Sage Hodil

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In a new study of top pro-Trump online shows in the days after President Donald Trump launched his formal tariff plan, Media Matters has found some dissension as his economic policy disrupts the global economy — even as this ecosystem still overwhelmingly supports him.

Between April 2 (so-called “Liberation Day”), when tariffs were first announced, and April 8, when Trump first announced an alleged “pause” on some of the tariffs, we found that a majority of top right-leaning online shows that self-categorize as related to news and politics had mostly positive coverage of tariffs.

Among right-leaning online shows that self-categorize as nonpolitical, a full quarter of discussions also embraced the president’sdeeply unpopulartariff policy.

There was some dissent, notably from Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan, who provided mostly negative coverage of tariffs during this time frame. But none of the shows — including those with critical tariff coverage — have abandoned Trump over his economic malfeasance.

The amount of discussion on the topic of tariffs varied greatly from show to show overall (Rogan, for example, covered the tariffs sparingly in comparison to other top right-leaning shows). Many shows did not discuss the tariffs at all, and some did not upload any episodes in the studied time frame.

A Media Matters study of online shows published in March 2025 found that the most popular content in online and streaming shows is overwhelmingly right-leaning. In this new study, we examined those right-leaning podcasts -- and not the neutral or left-leaning shows -- from that prior assessment.

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Avowed neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes praised Candace Owens making the rounds on popular independent media platforms this week.

Fuentes, who has become notorious for his anti-semitic and misogynist screeds online, praised podcast hosts in the so-called “manosphere” for having on Owens as well as accused sex trafficker Andrew Tate in recent days. President Donald Trump’s 2024 win was linked to the “manosphere” by many pundits who argue that the popular podcasters helped him reach younger, male voters across the country.

“Candace on Theo Von and Theo Von’s clearly red pilled. Stephen A. Smith had Candace Owens on. He’s clearly red pill. Jason Whitlock is praising Andrew Tate. He’s clearly red billed. Andrew Tate is on NELK, red pilled. Tate is on PBD [Patrick Bet-David] spreading the message,” Fuentes began, before turning to Joe Rogan’s controversial guest on Wednesday.

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“Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan and Joe Rogan seems to be– I don’t know if we could say he’s red pilled, but certainly he hints every now and again that he knows maybe more than he lets on,” Fuentes said. Rogan raised eyebrows by inviting Carroll on his popular show as Carroll has long spread wild conspiracy theories, like claiming that Israel was behind 9/11 and Jeffrey Epstein’s suicide.

“So it is a very exciting time and I love to see it,” Fuentes continued, before explaining how his white nationalist views are being furthered by the likes of Owens:

It does make me very happy. And it’s very white pilling because like I said ten years ago when I went to Charlottesville and we said Jews will not replace us. That sort of encapsulates both of the problems, right? Which is replacement migration. And if Jews run society, are they not responsible?

Back when I did that, I was radioactive, I was ostracized, I was canceled, they said my career was over. And largely it was The Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro who were responsible for that. Then they were untouchable at that point. And what a long decade it has been. What, a long eight years it has been since that time.

And now it’s almost reversed. Daily Wire is crashing and burning, desperate for relevance. Candace Owens has gone independent, going full red pill, talking about the things I’ve talked about on this show for years, it seems like the message is finally getting out there, so it’s pretty remarkable to see.

Owens exited the Daily Wire after feuding with Ben Shapiro over Israel and antisemitism and has made headlines throughout 2024 for her attacks on Jews, including claiming that a “small ring” of Jewish people in Hollywood and DC are involved in a “sinister” plot. She ended the year being labeled the “Antisemite of the Year” by a right-leaning watchdog group, which warned “There is no psychotic rabbit hole too extreme for this poisonous hater.”

Tate, who has recently relocated to Florida after Romania lifted his house arrest, joined the Full Send Podcast this week and said there is no free speech in American because there is no “speaking out against the Jews” – an anti-semitic trope related to Jewish control of the media.

Fuentes leads the so-called Groyper Army, a loose network of alt-right figures who are vocal supporters of white supremacy, often trolling mainstream conservative events to try and move the GOP more toward white nationalism.

Fuentes has long been active on the far right in American politics and in the past has hosted a conference meant to be counter-programming to CPAC, which included speeches by Reps.Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Paul Gosar (R-AZ). Reports have recently tied a former aide in Gosar’s office to Fuentes and the Groypers.

He famously joined anti-semitic rapper Kanye West for dinner at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump just ahead of Trump announcing he would run in 2024. Fuentes has long stirred controversy by denying the Holocaust and calling for the execution of non-Christians.

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Evangelical pastor Steve Berger’s political influence campaign operates out of his D.C. townhouse. In addition to House Speaker Mike Johnson living there, a prominent Trump ally, Rep. Andy Ogles, has the keys.

On the Mar. 5, 2025 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, host Joe Rogan interviewed Ian Carroll, an antisemitic conspiracy theorist. Throughout the show, Rogan and Carroll pushed the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory, as well as conspiracies about the Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11, and vaccines.

The president's address to Congress included a line designed to go viral in the right-wing misinformation machine.

The Senate Education Appropriations subcommittee presented its budget recommendation for the Oklahoma State Department of Education Wednesday, which nixed a $3 million request by the agency to place Bibles in classrooms.

Dan Bongino is hawking prepper products and paranoia en route to the FBI.

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Trump and his MAGA allies repeatedly accuse mainstream media outlets of spreading "fake news" — which, Trump critics argue, is projection in light of all the conspiracy theories that MAGA Republicans promote.

In an article published the day after Christmas, Salon's Amanda Marcotte stresses that "disinformation" and a "poor information ecosystem" played a key role in Trump's victory over Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 election.

"In the face of Vice President Kamala Harris losing the presidential election to Donald Trump," Marcotte writes, "the punditry's focus has been almost exclusively on asking how the Democrats couldn't beat a relentless liar with 34 felony convictions and a previous attempted coup under his belt. Everyone has a different theory about Harris' 'messaging,' with every critic inevitably arguing that if she had just talked more about their pet issue, she would have won."

Marcotte continues, "Another option, however, is to listen to what swing voters who backed Trump said about their decision."

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Many U.S. voters, Marcotte laments, are "addicted to BS." And she cites research from conservative strategist Sarah Longwell, a Never Trumper who recently interviewed 2024 Trump voters who listen to Joe Rogan's podcast.

"Rogan's audience perfectly illustrates the way the firehose of disinformation online — his conspiracy theory-hyping podcast has over 16 million followers — has pickled the brains of so many otherwise normal people," Marcotte explains. "Most of the people Longwell interviewed couldn't go two minutes without coughing up a conspiracy theory. Everything is a shadowy plot, from the COVID-19 pandemic to the guy who shot Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania."

Marcotte points to the far-right QAnon as an example of how outlandish conspiracy theories can be.

"After the insurrection of January 6," Marcotte observes, "a lot of attention was paid to the rise of QAnon, because so many rioters were adherents to this online cult that preached that Trump is a savior prophesized to stop a worldwide Satanic conspiracy. Alarming reports showed millions of Americans believed QAnon myths, such as the divinity of Trump or that Democrats drink children's blood."

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Marcotte continues, "QAnon is still around, but it gets much less media coverage these days. One likely reason is what we see in these focus groups: bonkerballs levels of conspiracy belief is no longer a fringe phenomenon. QAnon-style beliefs are simply the norm in American society…. One of the best predictors, if not the best predictor, of a Trump vote is how poor a person's information ecosystem is. People who read or watch real news outlets voted overwhelmingly for Harris. People who get their political information from social media voted for Trump."

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Throughout the 2024 election cycle, reproductive rights were an electoral vulnerability for Donald Trump. Though popular with the Republican base, his appointment of antiabortion judges gave serious pause to many key voting blocs, including undecided young men.

In pursuit of these voters, Trump’s strategy wasn’t demagoguery but comedy.

Trump’s October appearance on comedian Andrew Schulz’s podcast, “Flagrant,” demonstrated his approach to the touchy issue.

Schulz playfully invoked Trump’s youngest son, who’s a student at New York University – “Barron is 18. He’s unleashed in New York City. Are you sure you want to reverse Roe vs. Wade now?” After a beat, Trump laughed, Schulz laughed, and then, presumably, thousands of young male listeners joined in.

Trump continued with boilerplate answers about states rights, but this substance – as is so often the case – was divorced from the strategy. Schulz had helped Trump turn an unpopular position into a frat boy punchline, something to be discarded along with last night’s empties. Trump won that media cycle and, ultimately, a majority of the votes of young men on his way to a second White House win.IFrame Content Podcaster Andrew Schulz pokes fun at the touchy issue of abortion in an interview with Donald Trump on Oct. 9, 2024.

Vice President Kamala Harris, by contrast, appeared on mainstream comedy shows with aging, liberal audiences like “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.” Pundits criticized her failure to engage young voters in online comedy platforms. They also urged liberals to develop a new crop of political comedians to match the influence of Schulz and podcaster Joe Rogan.

However, these criticisms of Harris’ strategy miss the failure of liberal comedians to evolve with media and political trends.

While Jimmy Kimmel cries and Jon Stewart rants, the right wing in the U.S. has successfully depicted itself as the new home for free speech and cutting edge comedy. We explored this development in our book, “That’s Not Funny: How the Right Makes Comedy Work for Them.”

The right has become a home for comedians not by making political arguments through jokes, but by positing that there are funnier things to do than to argue.

A formula goes stale

Liberal comedy and political satire have stuck to the same formula of Stewart’s “The Daily Show” for much of the 21st century.

It goes something like this: A sarcastic, eloquent host uses meticulously researched data to describe a pressing social issue, and then delivers a punchline directed at right-wing hypocrisy. The resultant pairing of righteous laughter and anger has been repeated by “The Colbert Report,” “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee” and “Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj,” among other comedy programs.

These satirical shows filled the void left by an increasingly profit-driven news media. However, they have come to prioritize political preaching at the expense of laughs.

Perhaps Stewart’s most successful successor – and the best example of liberal satire’s patronizing tone – is HBO’s “Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.” Because the show appears on prestige cable, Oliver has a bigger budget to tackle controversial topics in depth.

Indeed, journalists and academics alike have celebrated the “John Oliver effect,” in which viewers mobilize behind a cause shortly after the host devotes an episode to it, whether it’s vaccines or internet regulation.

Oliver’s long-form lectures can be compelling. However, his appeal is not to young undecided voters who can’t afford HBO, but to college-educated liberals predisposed to support progressive reforms.

Twice in a recentelection postmortem episode, he reminded viewers of topics his show has covered in depth, like a professor chiding students for not remembering recent lessons. In one segment about Trump’s disingenuous economic message, Oliver pleaded that his show had already “explained inflation for 24 human minutes.”

While Oliver’s exasperation can be amusing, he’s clearly more upset at – even disdainful of – the American electorate, chastising them for failing the final exam of election night.

For liberals to reconnect with young voters – especially young men – we think they have to reinvent political comedy. Doing so will mean moving beyond the haranguing that has long been its primary delivery style. This will be a challenge, however, as the right fortifies the relationship between its own comedians and political power.

Comedians like John Oliver and Jon Stewart tend to appeal to college-educated liberals predisposed to support progressive reforms. Brad Barket/Getty Images for Comedy Central

Rise of the right-wing comedy complex

Trump’s success with comedy is a result of the new relationship between digital media and the business of joking. For decades, liberals were thought to hold a monopoly on comedy. Moreover, there was little money to be made in comedy acts devoted to right-wing politics.

Since 2016, however, a new crop of right-wing comedians has taken to digital platforms and algorithmically driven audience targeting in order to change this reality.

Libertarian podcasters like Rogan have long danced around the political spectrum, finding diverse positions that intrigue his primary target of young male listeners. He routinely platforms right-leaning cultural and comedic voices, features them as guests, and promotes their shows and products. In doing so, he has helped create a de facto right-wing comedy network.

Although each comedian or show in this network doesn’t have the audience and impact of, say, “The Daily Show” in its prime, their aggregate strength is precisely targeted at coveted young consumers and potential voters.

It is no coincidence that the most heralded stops on Trump’s October podcast tour were shows hosted by three regulars on “The Joe Rogan Experience”: Schulz, comedian Theo Von and libertarian scientist Lex Fridman. Trump also appeared on Rogan’s show for a three-hour episode.

Changing styles and platforms

Importantly, the type of political comedy featured on these programs is distinct from that of liberal satire of the past two decades.

“The Daily Show,” “Last Week” and their ilk dazzle viewers in 30-minute episodes using intricate arguments and sardonic punchlines.

Rogan and his affiliates hang out for hours, and audiences can listen as they go about their daily routines. In the process, podcast hosts shape their audience’s taste in culture, technology and recreation in what’s known as parasocial bonding.

Trump’s appearance on Von’s podcast “This Past Weekend,” for example, featured little in the way of biting jokes and rollicking laughter. Instead, Von and Trump held a meandering conversation full offunny, personal anecdotes about drug use interspersed with gestures to political topics.

Comedy styles are cyclical. In the 1950s, stand-up comedian Mort Sahl would read a newspaper on stage, peppering in sarcastic observations about the day’s headlines. The Smothers Brothers played with yo-yos before they introduced protest songs. The apolitical observational humor of Jerry Seinfeld reigned supreme in the 1980s and ’90s.

The 2000s liberal satire of Stewart and Oliver was driven by cable television industry mandates to court young men. The tastes and media habits of this audience have moved on, but liberal comedy has failed to follow them.

Nick Marx, Associate Professor of Film and Media Studies, Colorado State University and Matt Sienkiewicz, Associate Professor of Communication and International Studies, Boston College

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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Trump's Cabinet of horrors exposes his totalitarian drift

President Donald Trump and former U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard embrace, joined by Tucker Carlson on stage at a campaign event sponsored by conservative group Turning Point USA, in Duluth, Georgia, U.S., October 23, 2024. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

Donald Trump nominated an alleged rapist and sex trafficker to be attorney general. He picked a Russian asset to be director of national intelligence. He chose a religious fanatic and Kremlin stooge to be secretary of defense. And for secretary of health and human resources, he selected an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who once had a literal brain worm, and who habitually takes (“legal”) steroids to maintain, at the age of 70, the appearance of a physique of a man half his age.

There are the obvious things to say about this motley crew. Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth and Robert F Kennedy Jr are not qualified, respectively, to lead the agencies they have been chosen to lead. None has managed anything larger than an office. None has the expertise required. Gaetz has never worked in law enforcement, Gabbard in intelligence, Hegseth in military leadership or Kennedy in public health. Their only qualification is their loyalty to the man who picked them, and how they look to him when they are on television.

Right now, the discussion seems to be concentrated on the Senate Republicans, who will have majority control of that chamber in January. They will be responsible ultimately for vetting Trump’s cabinet picks. The question is whether they will find the courage to restrain the president-elect or roll over, either by approving them or by letting Trump have what he wants through recess appointments.

Among liberals, the discussion seems to be limited to the absurdities each of these people brings to governance as well as the dangers they pose. “Yes, shake your head at the seeming absurdity of these picks,” wrote MSNBC’s Jen Psaki. “But don’t stop there. These choices aren’t just controversial; they require us to stay vigilant about how each potential new Cabinet member could negatively affect our lives.”

But I think we’re missing the bigger picture. These nominations signal the totalitarian drift that’s coming to Washington and the country. Yes, that’s right. No, I’m not exaggerating. It’s time to start using that word.

Totalitarianism seeks dominion over the individual to the point where individuality is erased. That’s what happened to the Republican Party. Individuals have looked the same, talked the same, acted the same and thought the same for a long time. (The men sometimes literally dress the same as Donald Trump, with a blue suit, a long red tie.) After the election, however, Republican behavior has finally been totalized.

As one GOP congressman said, Trump “is the leader of our party. … His goals and objectives, whatever that is, we need to embrace it. All of it. Every single word. If Donald Trump says jump three feet high and scratch your head, we all jump three feet high and scratch our heads.”

The objective is forcing the rest of America to conform the way the Republican Party has conformed. This can be seen in the anger expressed by some magas. It wasn’t enough to win. Losers must now shut up and get in line, too. As a Trump attorney said recently: “You’ve got to own when you lose and say: this is America. We have to stand behind President Trump.” Senate Republicans are likely to approve his picks, no matter how bad, because the losers must be taught a lesson.

Totalitarianism also seeks to dominate the individual’s mind by going to war against facts, reason, science and any useful meaning of the word “proof.” In normal times, pre-Trump, we could expect in the Senate a spirited debate over a president-elect’s cabinet nominations, beginning with whether they’re qualified. Such debate is going to be impossible now, because “being qualified” is a meaningless term.

It is a stone-cold fact that Kennedy’s views on vaccines are not only insane, but in direct opposition to the moral principles of public health. But that fact won’t be accepted as fact. It will be taken as evidence of Trump’s enemies trying to sabotage his presidency. And there’s no way to break through this conspiracist mindset, as Lindsay Beyerstein calls it. It is impervious, she said. “When scientists or the government or journalists come forward with evidence that vaccines save millions of lives and prevent untold suffering, the conspiracist answer is: Well, that’s what conspirators to kill our children would say.”

Because there’s no empirical anchor to conspiratorial thinking, totalitarians can make reality into whatever they want. Up is down, left is right – or in the words of the totalitarian regime in George Orwell’s 1984: “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

Therefore, the Republicans are likely to see nothing wrong with his picks. His nominee for the law is anti-law. His nominee for national intelligence is anti-intelligence. His nominee for national defense is anti-defense. His nominee for science is anti-science. But there’s no dissonance in the world of conspiratorial thinking. Up is the new down, and the only measure of morality is whether it pleases the dear leader.

The drift toward conformity and away from individualism isn’t limited to the GOP. Thanks to the rightwing media apparatus, which is global in scale, totalizing groupthink has also been growing in the culture at large. The trick is that it comes disguised as subversive individualism.

During his interview with Trump, popular podcaster Joe Rogan said “the rebels are Republicans now. They’re like, you want to be a rebel? You want to be punk rock? You want to, like, buck the system? You’re a conservative now. That's how crazy. And then the liberals are now pro-silencing criticism. They’re pro-censorship online. They’re talking about regulating free speech and regulating the First Amendment.”

If you are listening to liberals directly, you know there are no such efforts. But if you are listening the rightwing media apparatus, or if you just feel the conspiratorial ambiance that it generates, it’s possible to cast yourself as a man who’s bucking the system, as if the party of billionaires is the party of the common man, as if people who look the same, talk the same, act the same and think the same are punk rock.

But the strongest evidence of totalitarian drift is the plain awfulness of Trump’s cabinet picks. They have not earned the right to be called on. They haven’t studied or mastered their disciplines. They haven’t built reputations among leaders, peers and professionals in their fields. They haven’t overcome adversity and hardship. They haven’t reached high and achieved. They certainly haven’t followed the road toward the American dream, which asks us to work hard and play by the rules.

And that’s the point. Totalitarians fear individual excellence, first because they can’t understand it, and second because excellence threatens their goal of totalizing conformity. They are not humble enough to admit that they are mediocre people but they are arrogant enough to believe they can force the rest of us down to their level.

With this cabinet, Trump can pick up where his second campaign left off, which is movement toward “the consistent persecution of every higher form of intellectual activity …” as Hannah Arendt once wrote.

“Total domination does not allow for free initiative in any field of life, for any activity that is not entirely predictable,” she said. “Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty” (my italics).

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very US election throws up a cast of figures adjacent to the campaign who endorse one candidate or another. Kamala Harris had a long line of celebrity backers, from Beyoncé to Bruce Springsteen.

Donald Trump had his own celebrities, such as Hulk Hogan, but he was also supported by a group of converted Democrats: Joe Rogan, Tulsi Gabbard, (just chosen as Trump’s director of national intelligence), Robert F. Kennedy Jr (Trump’s pick to head the federal health agency), and Elon Musk, who has been selected to co-lead Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency.

These figures are notable not just because they switched sides, but because they were part of an immensely popular online phenomenon born in the mid-2010s: the intellectual dark web. (Not to be confused with the dark web.)

After Trump’s victory, I found myself exclaiming: my God, the intellectual dark web just won the election! Though the name is now rarely used, understanding the phenomenon can help us understand what just happened.

The intellectual dark web became increasingly well known during the first Trump presidency. It gained mainstream attention through a 2018 New York Times article, which described it as “a collection of iconoclastic thinkers, academic renegades and media personalities who are having a rolling conversation – on podcasts, YouTube and Twitter, and in sold-out auditoriums – that sound unlike anything else happening, at least publicly, in the culture right now”.

Many of these figures, the Times noted, were building their own media channels. It identified The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, which has an audience in the tens of millions, as a focal point. “People are starved for controversial opinions,” Rogan has said. “And they are starved for an actual conversation.”

In the week before the election, podcast episodes withTrump,JD Vance andMusk gained 80 million views on YouTube alone. Interestingly, in the week after the election, MSNBC’s viewership was down 39% and CNN’s down 22%, compared with their October averages. The audience of Fox News jumped 39% in the same period.

What was the intellectual dark web?

In the mid-2010s, longform podcasts became an unexpected success. Rogan’s was one of the most successful. His conversations with academics, politicians and media personalities went for hours and were uncensored, and his approach was very different from the heavily produced interviews of mainstream media.

The “core” of the intellectual dark web included Rogan, psychologist and bestselling author of 12 Rules for Life Jordan Peterson, neuroscientist Sam Harris (who voted for Hillary Clinton), and Eric Weinstein, managing director of Peter Thiel’s venture capital firm until 2022 (and a Bernie Sanders supporter).

However, there were 50 or more others like Musk and Gabbard who appeared on Rogan’s podcast (and those of other core figures), who had similar values and concerns.

Musk and Gabbard both first appeared on Rogan’s podcast in 2018.Musk has appeared five times and Gabbardseven times. Kennedy Jr, a latecomer, has appeared once so far, inJune 2023.

Gabbard, a former congresswoman for Hawaii, even announced her resignation from the Democratic party on Rogan’s podcast, in October 2022. “The people in charge of the Democratic party… have created this cult-like atmosphere,”she said. “The Democratic party of the past – the party that I joined – doesn’t exist anymore. The party of JFK, of Dr Martin Luther King … The big tent party that welcomed and encouraged this marketplace of ideas.”

The rise of podcasting coincided with campus politics spilling over into the wider world. “Cancel culture”, which grew out of this, has often been mentioned on Rogan’s podcast as a problem.

For the intellectual dark web, the worst aspects of campus politics are driven by postmodernism’s degradation of traditional liberal values. Once, the great liberal objective was to try to grasp the truth – the nature of reality. This was done through open and civil discussion, and by drawing on reasoning and evidence.

Postmodernism, ‘woke’ and disputed realities

The 1960s saw the rise of poststructuralism, which led to postmodernism from the 1980s. The latter was influenced by the ideas of French philosopher Michel Foucault, who was concerned with dissecting power. Foucault believed power “produces reality”.

Postmodern thinking argues there is no objective truth: apparent claims to it are always related to power. Postmodernism became the unofficial philosophy of identity politics – what many now refer to as being “woke”.

For postmodern thinkers, the task of the intellectual activist is to prevent or transform the speech of the powerful. The introduction of gender-neutral pronouns (they/them) and, relatedly, the term “Latinx” (a gender-neutral term for Latino) are examples. For postmodern and “woke” thinkers, the “truth” that matters belongs to those without power in our society. According to this way of thinking, the less power you have, the greater your worth, and vice versa.

“There’s no real world. Everything’s a social construct,” Peterson said of postmodernism. “And it’s a landscape of conflict between groups.”

The intellectual dark web’s criticism of “woke” politics is centred on this disputed reality (and ideas about power) – spanning issues as diverse as biological sex and gender, debates over police violence and Black Lives Matter, and Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) policies. While they accept that social norms influence us, they object to the idea that language conjures reality into existence.

These kinds of discussions had, for decades, been routinely shut down in universities. For example, last year, students called for the cancelling of “gender-critical feminist” Holly Lawford-Smith’s course on feminism at the University of Melbourne, due to her arguments for the significance of biological sex.

And these opinions (which are associated with conservatism) are rarely heard in the liberal mainstream media, where conservatism is the enemy.

Free speech as the path to truth

The intellectual dark web championed free speech as the pathway to truth.

Intellectual dark web thinkers do not believe in gender as a social construct: they see it as a biological reality, with real implications for men, women and relationships between them.

Louise Perry, author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, who has appeared on intellectual dark web podcasts, argues gender difference is not just physical, but psychological – and that women do not benefit from casual sex, despite liberal feminism encouraging it. Peterson exhorts men to follow a middle pathbetween emasculation and being like the misogynist influencer Andrew Tate.

Yes, the manosphere is real: Rogan’s audience is mostly male, as is Peterson’s. And Rogan’s guests are also mostly male. But the term “manosphere” is inherently dismissive. It ignores concerns that seemed to resonate with many US voters.

The intellectual dark web, in its commitment to reality, also bemoans the postmodern devaluation of merit. “I think the pathology that’s at the core of the culture war is an attack on competence itself,”says Peterson.

For me, Raygun’s recent performance at the Olympics, which was internationally criticised as poor, is a clear example of the postmodern devaluation of merit. As Rogan said: “It’s an offense to actual breakdancers that that lady did that. Actual high-level breakdancing is an athletic art form.”

This devaluation of merit is at the core of the intellectual dark web’s criticisms of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Black economist Glenn Loury, a member of the intellectual dark web, argues such initiatives don’t even help those they are designed to help. “I hate affirmative action,”he says. “It is a substitute for the actual development of the capacities of our people to compete.”

In such ideas, there is a recurring tension between creating equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. For instance, US President Joe Biden was urged to pick a Black woman as vice president and promised to nominate a Black woman to the Supreme Court – both of which he did. He has been criticised for making these choices based on identity rather than merit.

These are complex discussions: there is a long history of Black people and women suffering discrimination when they have merit. But, arguably, the Democratic party has increasingly become concerned with a superficial equality of outcome, at the expense of the party’s erstwhile base: workers.

As US Senator Bernie Sanders said following Trump’s election win: “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.”

Rogan endorsed Sanders,who appeared on his podcast in 2019, as the Democratic candidate for the 2020 presidential election.

In 2020, at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests, Sam Harris spoke some then-taboo truths about the absurdity of calls to defund the police in the US. “Having a police force that can deter crime, and solve crimes when they occur, and deliver violent criminals to a functioning justice system, is the necessary precondition for almost anything else of value in society,” he said.

“Woke capitalism” is a concept that circulated within the intellectual dark web. It argues that identity politics might seem radical, but in fact works hand-in-glove with the corporate world. Rather than actually improving the lot of workers, many corporations prefer to make costless gestures by running diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

Where to now?

While Trump won for many reasons, including immigration and the economy, my sense is that Trump, forever the populist, harnessed a widespread dissatisfaction with a form of identity politics promulgated by a quite often well-paid, white-collar class: psychologist Steven Pinker’s “chattering class”.

The intellectual dark web, which can be seen as a broad populist movement spanning the left and right, has been going on about identity politics and its postmodern roots for more than a decade. Now, its ideas and figures have helped elect a president, and some of them – Musk, Gabbard and Kennedy Jr – have roles in Trump’s administration.

Jamie Q Roberts, Lecturer in Politics and International Relations, University of Sydney

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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joe Rogan’s podcast is fueling a bizarre TikTok conspiracy theory that falsely attributes climate change impacts to cyclical changes in Earth’s magnetic field, seemingly violating the app’s new climate misinformation policy.

The conspiracy theory’s viral spread on the platform highlights TikTok’s persistent climate misinformation problem, even as it has begun implementing a new policy banning content that “undermines well-established scientific consensus, such as denying the existence of climate change or the factors that contribute to it.”

Inspired by the January 18 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, content creators have latched onto claims made in a pseudoscientific book called The Adam and Eve Story: The History of Cataclysms. (Along with pushing the cataclysmic pole hypothesis, the book claims that Jesus Christ lived in India for nearly 18 years and was abducted by aliens in a “space vehicle” after his crucifixion.)

Between January and April, Media Matters identified seven viral clips from the Joe Rogan Experience episode discussing the conspiracy theory, which garnered over 20 million cumulative views on TikTok. The videos feature clips of Rogan discussing the book with “independent researcher” Jimmy Corsetti, who runs the YouTube channel Bright Insight, and Ben van Kerkwyk, who runs the channel UnchartedX.

Joe Rogan keeps platforming conspiracy theorists and skeptics of human-caused climate change, driving misinformation

In the January 18 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the host brought up “the Adam and Eve” theory and asked Corsetti, “How much of that is agreed upon, that there could be a time where the magnetic poles actually shift?”

Corsetti replied that “This is science,” explaining, “The Adam and Eve Story", the theory on that is that it happens in cycles of 6,500 years and that it’s a 90-degree flip, but six days later, around the seventh day, it corrects itself.” He continued to describe “a planet flip, 90 degrees, and that because of it the Earth essentially does a standstill, the sun will be direct — will basically stay in the same spot, causing heating like we’ve never experienced — and that the wind and the waters continue with their momentum, because essentially the wind travels at approximately 1,000 miles an hour at the equator, so the theory is that when that event happens it’s going to be cataclysmic.:

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corsetti’s nonsensical explanation was widely shared on TikTok, with one viral clip receiving nearly 11 million views.

In reality, NASA reports that pole reversals, when Earth’s North and South Poles swap locations — which “take place over hundreds to thousands of years,” not a mere seven days — have occurred “183 times in the last 83 million years, and at least several hundred times in the past 160 million years.” Notably:

Plant and animal fossils from the period of the last major pole reversal don’t show any big changes. Deep ocean sediment samples indicate glacial activity was stable. In fact, geologic and fossil records from previous reversals show nothing remarkable, such as doomsday events or major extinctions.

Additionally, there's “no evidence” that any magnetic excursion event (periods of “shorter-lived but significant changes in the magnetic field’s intensity”) has impacted the Earth’s climate within the last 2.8 million years. Scientists aren’t sure when the next pole reversal will occur, but a recent study suggests that won’t be anytime soon. And if it is, a doomsday scenario is unlikely.

Corsetti acknowledged this but claimed that scientists “don’t know what they’re talking about.”

Rogan has previously drawn criticism for leveraging his massive reach and influence to amplify climate denial, and his podcast has catered to guests such as Michael Shellenberger and Bjorn Lomborg, who use cherry-picked and decontextualized talking points to downplay the devastating impacts of climate change and to attack climate solutions. He has also hosted figures who downright deny the fact that fossil fuel consumption is driving climate change, such as Steve Koonin, Jordan Peterson, and Randall Carlson, who has appeared on the podcast at least six times and said thatcarbon dioxide is not driving global warming and that natural factors” are more responsible than humanactions.

In their discussion of The Adam and Eve Story, Rogan and his guests also downplayed the impacts of climate change that millions of people are experiencing and praised Donald Trump for suggesting that the Earth is actually cooling.

“Right now we should be grateful that it’s nice and cozy because we can live when it’s warm,” Corsetti said.

Rogan then cited Carlson, saying, “Global warming’s not scary. It’s global cooling, that’s what’s really scary.” The host further suggested that climate change is “ this narrative that just gets repeated over and over and over and this fearmongering and everyone gets freaked out. It’s not to say that we aren’t polluting, we certainly are, and it’s not to say that we shouldn’t improve, we certainly should, but if the fucking magnetic poles might shift and we might get hit by a giant rock from space, we might have bigger problems. If we’re going to be concentrating on nonsense, which is really par for the course with human beings, we’re going to be concentrating on these things we’re really not going to fix over the short-term, when something might happen that makes all of it a moot point.”

Media Matters also identified two viral clips of this exchange on TikTok with 2 million and 2.6 million views, respectively.

What is The Adam and Eve Story?

The book was written in 1965 by Chan Thomas, who worked in the aerospace industry and claimed to be a psychic. The book was not available to the public until 2013, however, when 57 pages were released by the CIA, and this censorship has captured the imaginations of conspiracy theorists. Since its declassification, The Adam and Eve Story has worked its way into the broader conspiracy theory ecosystem.

Thomas argued that the Earth’s magnetic poles shift every several thousand years, causing cataclysmic events such as tsunamis that destroy civilizations and drastically alter Earth’s geology — one example he used was the flood in the Noah’s Ark narrative in the Bible’s Book of Genesis. Chan predicted that such an event would occur in the near future, and some are now framing increasingly extreme weather events such as hurricanes, floods, and droughts as evidence that the next cataclysm is approaching.

A TikTok account for a podcast called No Regulars posted a March 1 video that has been viewed nearly 18 million times in which host Darris Watkins says that the book’s explanation of cataclysmic magnetic pole shifts actually “makes sense” in describing climate change and “explains a lot” because “the Sahara desert used to be green and like Antarctica used to have forests … So now like some places turn cold, some places turn hot.[pix?

the popularity of these conspiracy theories among TikTok users may indicate one way that climate misinformation is evolving to reach young people.

Climate misinformation disguised as ancient civilization conspiracy theories

At the time Thomas wrote The Adam and Eve Story, the public at large was not informed of the consequences of anthropogenic climate change. Despite fossil fuel companies being aware of the potential for human-caused global warming as early as the 1950s, people weren’t yet experiencing the ecological effects of increasing temperatures. But when the book was declassified in 2013, it was released into a world grappling with the dire effects of climate change.

While it was not written to provide an alternative explanation for climate change, The Adam and Eve Story provides a framework for interpreting its effects outside of an anthropogenic explanation. This narrative, which shifts blame away from our fossil fuel economy onto planetary forces beyond human control, can serve as climate misinformation.

Rogan’s guests and other proponents of this conspiracy theory purport to be interested in its ramifications for scientific understanding of ancient civilizations, but climate misinformation often serves as a backdrop for their discussions. At one point in their interview, Rogan suggested “that there was incredibly sophisticated technology that existed and … was wiped out. And that we’re talking about a really advanced civilization that lived a long time ago that’s more advanced than we are today but moved in a different direction, like we moved in the direction of combustion engines and electronics and they moved in some other direction but achieved maybe many thousands of years more sophistication in that direction than we have with our internal combustion engines.”

While climate change may not take center stage in these speculations, the implications that humans are not having any influence over our warming planet and that near-apocalyptic events are always inevitable as a result of natural cycles in the Earth’s magnetic field are nonetheless harmful misinformation that lets politicians and fossil fuel companies off the hook for their role in the climate crisis. (Meanwhile, the world’s biggest oil and gas companies just raked in record first-quarter profits.)

Cataclysm narratives as climate sedatives

Narratives that frame climate change as an inevitable disaster caused by forces beyond our control are a key argument of climate denial: If climate change is caused by changes in the Earth’s magnetic field, then there is no point in implementing sweeping action to curtail fossil fuel emissions. In the past, the Earth’s orbit, the sun, and cosmic rays have all similarly been used to provide alternative explanations for climate change.

There is overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is caused by burning fossil fuels. The only way to avert increasing social, political, and ecological effects of climate change is by transitioning away from a fossil fuel economy.

Despite its appearance as a conspiracy theory about ancient civilizations, The Adam and Eve Story is being used to undermine the scientific consensus regarding the cause of climate change. As TikTok ramps up the enforcement of its new climate misinformation policy, the platform should account for the ways climate denial is often incorporated into seemingly harmless conspiracy theories.

Finally, Spotify still has no clear policy regarding the promotion of climate misinformation on its platform. Spotify reportedly paid $200 million for exclusive rights to Rogan’s show, which was the top podcaston its platform in 2022. As Rogan’s contract is expected to expire in 2023, Spotify will have to decide whether platforming his misinformation and hate speech is worth the profit.

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Former President Donald Trump on Monday called for a redo of the 2020 election in an angry rant on his financially imperiled Twitter knockoff app Truth Social.

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So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI BURIED THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION knowing that, if they didn’t, 'Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election.' This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!

Trump's outrage stemmed from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg's revelation to podcaster Joe Rogan last Thursday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation warned Zuckerberg that articles relating to Hunter Biden's laptop were pieces of Russian propaganda. Facebook then suppressed posts about the president's son and his computer.

READ MORE:Donald Trump ends his weekend by insulting NASA

The FBI said in a statement after Zuckerberg's interview with Rogan that it "routinely notifies U.S. private sector entities, including social media providers, of potential threat information, so that they can decide how to better defend against threats."

The FBI alsotold Fox Business that "foreign threat indicators to help them protect their platforms and customers from abuse by foreign malign influence actors."

READ MORE:Donald Trump's lawyer falsely claims FBI searched Mar-a-Lago because Liz Cheney lost her primary

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The Worst Possible Candidate for Governor

BY AMY WESTERVELT – 30 MAR 2022– Today a new episode of The Joe Rogan Experience drops featuring climate delay grifter extraordinaire Michael Shellenberger, who apparently is now running for governor. The phrase "high on his own supply" comes to mind.

At any rate, it reminded me of a piece I commissioned for Drilled over a year ago from investigative journalist Paul Thacker on Shellenberger and the Breakthrough Institute he co-founded, and why the media continuously gives both unearned credit. Niether Shellenberger nor his co-founder Ted Nordhause would talk to Paul because he'd written pieces that were critical of them in the past, but I didn't think we could ethically run the story without speaking to them both, so I did. Spent about two hours on each conversation and came away feeling like Shellenberger was unstable and Nordhaus was nowhere near as smart as he clearly thought he was. At the time, I opted not to run the piece. Neither Shellenberger nor BTI seemed that powerful, so it felt more like gossip than like information the public needed to hear.

Now the math has changed. If Shellenberger was on Rogan for three hours spouting his particular brand of cherry-picked data and debate-me bro nonsense as part of his campaign for governor, I think the public—and Californians in particular—need to know what they're dealing with here.  The piece is below, and there will be a bonus podcast episode tomorrow with my interview with Shellenberger for subscribers. You can upgrade to a paid subscription via the button below if you're not already.

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it was a March Wednesday in 2019 and I was sitting in a green room in the San Fernando Valley. Across from me, a middle-aged man tapped at his phone. His face was tan and indistinct. In his lap he was holding a pile of red folders. We were both, it seemed, waiting for Joe Rogan.

Rogan's podcast, on which I was scheduled to appear, was supposed to go live at noon. Already it was 12:10.

"He'll be here," Jeff, the on-site manager, assured me. "Eventually."

The studio was an enormous, multi-purpose facility. It opened back on itself, torus-shaped, to include an MMA gym, an indoor archery range and even a sensory deprivation tank. The entrance to the recording booth was positioned off to the side, opposite from where I sat. It was there, in a narrow, nondescript, soundproof space about the size of a small school bus, that "The Joe Rogan Experience" had grown over the last decade into the most popular show in the country.

Today, an average episode reaches an audience of nearly 11 million. More than 200 million users download the podcast each month. In 2019 alone, Rogan was reportedly paid $30 million, twice as much as his closest competitor, and that was before he signed on with Spotify, last May, for nearly $200 millionover a four-year span. And while his listeners are predominantly male—as much as 71 percent of them — they're also, according to a survey by Media Monitors, "largely representative of the majority of podcast listenership," a demographic that also enjoys shows like "Serial," The Daily" and "This American Life."

To some, Rogan is a conman, selling bigotry beneath an awe-shucks veneer. Or he represents the torrid heights of faux-intellectualism unleashed by Trumpism. Or, conversely, his fault is that he's just too normal. Or the problem is that he means well but, in generously welcoming back the Alex Joneses of the world, he's shed whatever capacity for empathy and moral judgment he once maintained. The takes go on and on — he's the new Walter Cronkite! He's an insurrectionist precipitating civil war! — with varying extremity.

But this essay isn't about whether you should condemn or contextualize Joe Rogan. Instead, my goal is to try and convey, through a personal lens, what it is about Rogan as a podcaster that helps to explain why he's so popular — something inherent to his style that goes beyond his demographic appeal.

* * *

I was there that afternoon to talk about my new book, "Freak Kingdom," a chronicle of the countercultural journalist Hunter S. Thompson's political writing and activism in the 1960s and early '70s. Apparently Rogan was a huge Thompson fan, and his show was the final stop on a months-long publicity tour I'd waged between weekdays and off-days from the university where I teach. I was exhausted, the book hadn't done as well as I'd hoped, and my marriage of 15 years was coming to an end.

I had listened to a few episodes to prepare, but what I knew about Joe Rogan was cursory. How different could he be from, say, Terry Gross?

The minutes ticked past noon with still no sign from the host. I tapped my foot. I counted the ceiling tiles. I was reminded of Joan Didion's essay "The White Album," in which she had resigned herself to counting the console knobs in a Sunset Boulevard recording studio while waiting, along with the rest of the Doors,for Jim Morrison. ("There were seventy-six.")

I counted the files in the lap of the stranger across from me. Why not? It seemed to help. I was first diagnosed with ADHD at the age of six and I've been receiving treatment for it, in one way or another, for as long as I can remember. Lately, moments like the one I was experiencing now had been coming on with startling frequency, and my usual approach at management, which included regular exercise, psychotherapy and medication, seemed woefully inadequate.

I reached into my pocket and pulled out my phone, which was already powered down — the prospect of it going off in front of an audience of millions seemed all too plausible — and stared at the empty screen. A few more minutes passed. Now it was nearly 12:30. At last Joe Rogan arrived.

He walked into the green room, I stood up, and we quickly shook hands. Then he took a seat next to the man across from me, who passed him the stack of documents.

Rogan was stout and muscular, dressed in a tight long-sleeve shirt he'd unbuttoned at his neck. His balding head was cleanly shaved. His jaw was sharp with stubble. He read through the contents of the folders carefully, pen in hand. Every few pages he'd scribble something on the documents and pass them to the guy alongside, who'd do the same. His posture was like that of a student athlete, reminding me of a boxer.

But he wasn't young. He was 51. There was a tightness to his squint that broke up the smoothness of his face. The hair at his temples, what was left of it, had grayed. Each time he moved the pen across a paper, the skin at the back of his hand corded and creased.

He finished signing papers. I was still watching him. He glanced at the man alongside, then at me, and shrugged. "He's my notary," he said. And he got up and headed to the recording room. There was no indication he wanted me to follow. I stood there not sure what to do.

His notary gathered up the documents and departed. His manager Jeff wanted to know if I'd like anything to drink.

"Is it too early for whiskey?"

In the recording studio, as I tried to settle in, Jeff brought me a glass with ice and filled it to the top. Rogan was sitting opposite. Things were finally about to start.

But there was a technical issue. The software for the live video feed kept crashing.

As we waited for his producer to iron things out I tried to introduce myself. Coming in, I'd known that this was probably the largest audience I was likely to appear before in my lifetime, but now, the nervousness in my voice shocked me. I was speaking quickly but somehow I could barely get the words out.

Rogan held up a hand. "Let's save it," he said, "for the show."

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The episode we recorded that afternoon has been available to download for almost three years. Millions of people have done so in the time since. I've never been able to listen to it, let alone watch the video feed. It was only recently that I finally sat down and went through it again.

For an hour and a half, Rogan and I talked about, among other things, Hunter S. Thompson. Or to be more accurate, I talked. At a feverish pace. He hardly had a chance to break in. And when he did, I kept bringing everything back, without fail, to Donald Trump's presidency; again and again I connected our current political moment to the past, regardless of context. I sounded like I'd been handed a set of talking points.

"Joe's interviews are informal and conversational in nature," his producer had emailed me beforehand, "and generally run between two and three hours in length." Nevertheless, I'd gone in expecting an interview with questions prepared ahead of time.

Rogan wanted to discuss Thompson in a personal way. He talked about a visit he took to Woody Creek, the small town outside Aspen where Thompson had spent much of his life, with his children. And he told a story from his childhood — what it was like to watch his favorite athlete, Muhammad Ali, fight on television for the first time. "My parents were hippies," he said. "My parents never watched TV, and they definitely never watched boxing. And they sat in front of the TV to watch that … I just remember thinking, I can't believe my parents want to watch a boxing match. And that's when it sunk in at an early age that this guy was not just this heavyweight boxer. He was a cultural icon. He was a storied figure."

About an hour into our episode the conversation turned to stimulants. Hunter Thompson, during his most productive stretch of writing and reporting, had taken Dexedrine, which is similar to Adderall.

"There's a weird tradition in journalism right now to destroy your body while creating art," Rogan said. "There's a big problem with Adderall today. Have you done it?"

My first book, "Hyper," was a memoir and cultural history of ADHD that included my personal experiences with different treatments for the disorder. It was published in 2014. I mentioned it to Rogan quickly, assuming he already knew about it. (He did not.) "I take 30 milligrams a day," I said." I also brought up, as an aside, a moment from the opening to "Hyper": an extreme response I had to Ritalin at the age of six. This only seemed to confuse matters further.

"I mean," he responded, "you don't have an issue that you need to take it for?"

t was a straightforward question: He was asking me to clarify what I'd been talking about — an opportunity to discuss my ADHD and why I was prescribed stimulants. I literally wrote a book on the topic. But I froze.

Five years earlier, after "Hyper" was released, I'd been invited by the council for Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (CHADD) to talk about promotional opportunities. At their headquarters in Maryland I met with the executive board. I'd packed my pens and notebooks the night before. I arrived 30 minutes early. My shirt was pressed and tucked, my tie was straight. I was just another neurotypical, I told myself — I was together. I spoke slowly and did not move my hands. I tilted my head thoughtfully and listened when others spoke. Afterward, walking out, I was elated. Then I caught my reflection in the elevator door. My fly had been down the entire time.

Here I was now, on the largest stage of my life; I'd been found out. Maybe the zipper to my pants wasn't down, but I'd hijacked a freewheeling podcast and, at a rapid clip, gone from discussing Trump's totalitarian impulses to inviting the show's host to discuss my shortcomings — along with the psychotropic medication I was prescribed in order to deal with them. I wanted to get back to talking about other subjects — about Thompson, about politics, about America, about anything else — even though I understood that the way in which I was coming across on the show precluded the possibility of leaving this question behind.

"The world," I replied at last to Rogan, "is incredibly painful." That's it. I refused to simply say: I have ADHD.

He shook his head. "Wow," he said. "Fuck. It's crazy that we're talking about this."

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Rogan had asked a personal, difficult question. He was curious and engaging. It was up to me, however, to go further. I wouldn't. I was the one making assumptions. We talked together for a half-hour longer before, mercifully, wrapping up.

Rogan's talent, during conversations with strangers like myself — with people who are often very different from him — is to isolate points of complexity without derailing the discussion in the service of correcting or contradicting.

That's why, in my opinion at least, so many people listen. And that's also at the heart of the recent controversy over COVID misinformation: Rogan's failure to challenge his guest Robert Malone, in the moment, over the latter's bogus vaccine claims. "If I were Joe Rogan," John Oliver said in response, "I would employ a search department if I want to confidently say things and not just sit with a laptop next to me fucking Googling stuff as it occurs to me. I would be mortified if I passed on bad information."

But to expect him to correct his guests is to take away what makes the show — and makes him— so appealing.

Take my experience: By refusing at that moment to say that I had been diagnosed and was being treated for ADHD, I seemed to be admitting that I was consuming the drug illegally. Another host would no doubt have pursued that fact. (Some of his listeners certainly did, threatening in direct messages to report my "drug abuse" to my employer and law enforcement.) But Rogan let it stand.

My appearance would turn out to be one of the shortest in his catalog of episodes. By the time we finished up it was just after 2 p.m. I walked out of the small studio, buzzing from the whiskey, with the California sun brightening the windows along the wall.

Rogan was waiting to say goodbye. He smiled and, reaching out, shook my hand vigorously, a far cry from our introduction in the green room, when he'd walked in to find me panicked and restless with anticipation.

"I hope you sell a million books," he said, "and everyone is talking about what you wrote."

Neither would turn out to be true. I had a feeling, at the time, that this was the case. Still, his gesture felt sincere.

"I really enjoyed our conversation," he added. Despite all evidence to the contrary, I believed him. I still do.

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https://www.alternet.org/2022/02/defenses-of-joe-rogan-arent-about-free-speech-theyre-right-wing-solidarity/

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Defenses of Joe Rogan aren’t about free speech -- they’re right-wing solidarity

[Here's the real reason grifters are pushing a dodgy 'cure' for Covid — instead of the vaccines

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Ari Paul and FAIR February 14, 2022

Fox News: Free speech advocates, journalists defend Joe Rogan from calls for censorship

These “free speech advocates” (Fox News, 2/2/22) were conspicuously silent when people actually lost their jobs for criticizing cops.

For right-wing and libertarian media, Joe Rogan, host of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, has become a symbol of resistance to censorship (New York Post, 2/2/22; Fox News, 2/2/22; Reason, 2/2/22; The Hill, 2/1/22).

Musician Neil Young had given the streaming service Spotify, which paid a reported $100 million for exclusive rights to Rogan’s show, an ultimatum: either cut Rogan and his constant misinformation about Covid-19, or lose Young’s music. Spotify—a corporate media service that has been accused of exploiting musicians financially (Guardian, 7/29/13)―chose Rogan.

Contrary to his media defenders, Rogan has not been threatened with censorship. His free speech rights were never in any kind of jeopardy. Young has not crossed into some kind of pro-deep state censorship mode; rather, he left Spotify because he disagreed with its policies, taking his business elsewhere because he has the right to do that.

Young’s departure has cost Spotify $2 billion in market value (Variety, 1/29/22), as other notable musicians, like Joni Mitchell, followed suit (Fortune, 2/3/22). Grammy Award–winning singer/songwriter India Arie made matters worse for Rogan “by sharing resurfaced footage to social media showing Rogan using the N-word” (Hollywood Reporter, 2/4/22).

Both Rogan and Spotify have responded to the outrage, as “Rogan apologized…for his use of a racial slur in past episodes,” and the streaming service removed dozens of his show’s episodes (New York Times, 2/5/22). Such pressure against right-wing, corporate media shock jocks has yielded results in the past: CBS fired Don Imus due to a public backlash against racist and sexist comments he made about the Rutgers women’s basketball team (CBS, 4/12/07; Extra!, 5–6/07). Sometimes it doesn’t, as two dozen advertisers left Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show after he made anti-immigrant comments (Hollywood Reporter, 12/17/18), and he still enjoys top ratings (AdWeek, 1/3/22).

Artists and media consumers free to engage in media activism like leaving a streaming service (a form of voting with one’s dollars and property, supposedly a democratic feature of the free market) or protesting a media company over its content. But these articles imply that the mere discussion of Rogan’s ability to spread misinformation about Covid is an affront to his constitutional right to yell “fire” in a crowded theater. Fox News (2/3/22) paraphrased former Mumford & Sons banjo player Winston Marshall saying that “the state of music censorship in the Soviet Union in 1984” was comparable “to the conditions that Spotify is facing today as calls for it to pull Rogan’s work mount.”

Speech limits for everyday workers

NY Post: LI woman with same name as Jacqueline Guzman, actress fired for NYPD funeral rant, makes tearful plea

The New York Post (2/1/22) expressed no sympathy for a woman fired for criticizing police–she was “widely condemned for her shameful online rant”–but does feel bad for someone with the same name who was mistakenly subjected to abuse.

Meanwhile, regular, everyday workers live with limits to their “work mount” and their free speech rights because they are at-will employees. And unlike Rogan, who still has the support of Spotify’s boss (New York Post, 2/7/22), these workers are treated as disposable.

A few recent examples: A Catholic high school teacher was fired for a private tweet that apparently questioned her school’s efforts to commemorate two murdered NYPD officers (Daily News, 2/4/22).

Related to the public funeral of one of these slain NYPD cops, a New York City “actress was fired this weekend after backlash over her viral TikTok complaint that the city didn’t need to be shut down for ‘one f—— cop’” (Fox News, 1/30/22). And someone who shares her name with that actor says she has “been harassed and threatened by people confusing her with the woman who made the vile rant” (New York Post, 2/1/22).

In Tennessee, Starbucks fired unionizing employees who had “allowed members of the media into the store as part of the public launch of their unionization effort” (CNN, 2/8/22). For unionists, these terminations aren’t just an immoral violation of labor rights, but an affront to the First Amendment freedom of assembly and, in this case, these workers’ right to publicize their organizing against an enormous and well-known company in the free press.

These are examples of the real predations on free speech in this country, and yet instances like these don’t seem to elicit the same hand-wringing about censorship from right-wing media.

Controversy as sellable brand

Atlantic: Why Is Joe Rogan So Popular?

Devin Gordon (Atlantic, 8/19/19): “If you look past the jokes themselves and focus on the targets he’s choosing, the same patterns emerge. Hillary, the #MeToo movement, why it sucks that he can’t call things ‘gay,’ vegan bullies, sexism.”

Rogan has been immune to this kind of pressure, largely because his controversial statements are exactly what makes his media brand sellable; the Atlantic (8/19/19) said in 2019 that his show has “been the No. 2 most-downloaded podcast on iTunes for two years running,” and “his YouTube channel…has 6 million subscribers.” LGBTQ groups like GLAAD (Twitter, 7/22/20) have criticized the host for promoting anti-trans viewpoints,but Rogan is protected from his critics because by all metrics, he’s a benefit for the corporate services like YouTube:The Hill (2/1/22) argues that with 11 million listeners, “Rogan’s popularity is precisely due to the fact that he is uncensored in what he says.”

That is a very different story for the 99 Percent, who can become victims of a very real cancel culture, because things like being critical of the police at the wrong time can be seen as beyond the bounds of free discourse. Corporate media haven’t focused on them as victims; in fact, the tabloids and Murdoch-owned media have painted them as extremists who got what was coming to them.

And libertarians haven’t made them a cause, either. That’s because these pieces that treat Rogan as a free speech warrior aren’t honest. Their defense of Rogan, who said he would vote for Donald Trump in the last election (Guardian, 4/20/20), is not about the sacredness of free speech; while he is facing a lot of public criticism, he is not being regulated or stifled as a result. In fact, these articles celebrate the degree to which protests by musicians haven’t actually silenced him, an admission that his speech was never really under threat.

These pieces, instead, are a political defense of Covid-19 misinformation andbro jockracism. Robust public health measures to control the pandemic are seen by the right as left-wing government overreach, and therefore someone who criticizes them, however inaccurately, is on their team.

The Rogan affair is a spectacle by right-wing media to paint an advocate for a right-wing political cause as a victim. Meanwhile, right-wing tabloid vitriol has celebrated the punishment of speech by regular working people.

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the source for author Jordan Peterson’s recent claim that climate change cannot be modelled was a climate science denier who received money from a libertarian think tank funded by oil companies. 

The Canadian psychologist was widely criticised for spreading climate misinformation this week after telling the popular Joe Rogan podcast’s 11 million subscribers that climate models were full of errors that increase over time, and that climate is too complicated to model accurately.

Peterson responded to the criticism on Thursday in tweets to his 2.2 million followers citing a book called “Hot Talk, Cold Science: Global Warming’s Unfinished Debate” by S Fred Singer.

Singer, an American atmospheric physicist who died in 2020, argued that climate change was natural and not increased by human-caused carbon dioxide emissions. He argued that warming caused by greenhouse gas emissions was “trivial”.

In 1990 he founded the Science and Environment Policy Project (SEPP) that expounded these views. In 2014 DeSmog revealed that Singer received $5,000 a month from US right-wing think tank the Heartland Institute, which has taken donations from oil interests including ExxonMobil and the Koch family. Singer was a speaker at a 2012 Heartland conference where sponsors received $67 million from Exxon, Koch and the Scaife Family Foundations.

Singer frequently criticised climate modelling by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the peer-reviewed authority on climate science made up of hundreds of climate scientists.

In a 2016 article for American Thinker, Singer wrote: “The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has to provide proof for significant human-caused climate change; yet their climate models have never been validated and are rapidly diverging from actual observations.

“The real threat to humanity comes not from any (trivial) greenhouse warming but from cooling periods creating food shortages and famines."

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"The Scientists Were Right’

Dr Simon Evans, policy editor at Carbon Brief, told DeSmog: “Back in the early 1970s, scientists were building simple climate models and they hypothesised that rising greenhouse gas emissions would warm the planet.

“Well, the results are in, and those scientists were right. Not only that, those models – and other more recent ones – have been pretty accurate in estimating how much warming we would get.”

Peterson is known for his self-help books and opposition to “identity politics”, but has increasingly been spreading climate science misinformation.In his Joe Rogan interview, Peterson advocated hydraulic fracturing to extract shale gas – known as fracking – and dismissed the idea that greenhouse gas emissions could be reduced to net zero by 2050. 

In an appearance on BBC Question Time in November, Peterson criticised the COP26 UN climate summit and said developing countries should not be encouraged to control their CO2 emissions.

Last week Peterson shared a tweet from Net Zero Watch, a rebranding of the climate science-denying Global Warming Policy Forum, which questioned whether wind power is a “reliable, efficient and in-demand technology”. Peterson’s tweet added, regarding net zero targets: “Any “policy maker” who aims at zero anything has instantly demonstrated his or her incompetence.”

Jennie King, head of civic action and education at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue think tank, said: “This latest episode reveals a growing trend, whereby ‘non-climate influencers’ are becoming central nodes of mis- and disinformation for a mainstream public and exposing them to views which either deny the reality and impacts of climate change, or explicitly undermine trust in the science and institutions working to marshal a response.

“There are absolutely things to be debated and agreed around climate action, governance, timelines and finance, but the fundamental bases that Peterson calls into question are entirely ill-informed and do not move the conversation forward,” she added.

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https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/hugs-from-brazil-brazils-far-right-president-jair-bolsonaro-offers-support-to-joe-rogan/

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brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro wants to let Joe Rogan—the podcast host and former mixed martial artist currently embroiled in a scandal for spreading COVID-19 misinformation on Spotify—know that he has his back.

“I’m not sure what@joerogan thinks about me or about my government, but it doesn’t matter. If freedom of speech means anything, it means that people should be free to say what they think, no matter if they agree or disagree with us. Stand your ground! Hugs from Brazil,” the far-right president tweeted Tuesday night. [twt

why in the world is the president of Brazil taking time to weigh in on Rogan and his critics?

Andre Pagliarini, an assistant professor of history at Hampden Sydney College who often writes on U.S.-Brazil relations, says the show of support was yet another example of the “Bolsonaro clan dragging U.S.-style culture wars into the very different world of Brazilian politics and media landscape.” Whether Bolsonaro’s social media slam on the moderation of misinformation in the name of fighting “Big Tech censorship” works in his favor will become more apparent when Brazil holds national elections in October.

Bolsonaro has himself spread misinformation about COVID-19. The so-called“Trump of the Tropics” has also suggested that the only way he could lose the upcoming presidential election is if the vote is rigged, and he has aligned himself closely with the police and military—all while signaling a need for a “quite probable and necessary countercoup” should he lose. Trump hasendorsed Bolsonaro’s reelection bid.

Bolsonaro became an ally to the Trump administration as soon as he assumed office in 2019. His son, Brazilian congressman Eduardo Bolsonaro, frequently traveled to the U.S. to engage with members of Donald Trump’s inner circle. The younger Bolsonaro even traveled to Washington, D.C., ahead of the Jan. 6 insurrection to meet with figures like Mike Lindell and Jared Kushner, asdetailed in a recent report by the nonprofit research organization Advance Democracy, Inc.

There are other parallels between the politics of Trump and Bolsonaro. Like Trump, Bolsonaro had thesupport of MAGA strategist Steve Bannon and U.S.Christian right leaders during his 2018 campaign and hispresidency.

And like their conservative counterparts in the U.S., right-wing politicians in Brazil have made “tech censorship” a campaign issue.

During Brazil’s 2018 presidential campaign, disinformation flooded WhatsApp—used by about120 million Brazilians at the time—with the vast majority of false informationfavoring Bolsonaro. (If it sounds a bit like Facebook’s role in the 2016 U.S. election, may we remind you that WhatsApp’s parent company is, you guessed it, Facebook.) In October, Brazil’s Superior Electoral Court, which had conducted an inquiry into accusations that the 2018 Bolsonaro campaign coordinated disinformation on WhatsApp, acquitted Bolsonaro for lack of evidence.

But a member of the country’s Federal Supreme Courtreiterated its message that “if there is a repetition of what was done in 2018, [politicians’] registrations will be revoked, and those who do so will go to jail for attacking Brazil’s elections and democracy.” Meanwhile, the country’s Supreme Electoral Court isconsidering banning Telegram, another source of disinformation, ahead of the October 2022 election.

Such measures to prevent the spread of misinformation in Brazil does not bode well for Bolsonaro. That may explain why in September, the far-right president moved to temporarilyban social media companies from taking down certain posts, including claims that the only way Bolsonaro will lose in October is by voter fraud. Here’s where the Rogan controversy comes into play.

“Making an issue of the Rogan thing can be seen as a preemptive move to invoke tech censorship throughout Bolsonaro’s presidential campaign,” Pagliarini told Right Wing Watch.

For years, Rogan—who is also a UFC commentator—has invited MMA fighters, fringe health experts, far-right figures, and conspiracy theorists likeAlex Jones onto his Spotify-exclusive podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” with an estimated 11 million listeners per episode. Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, his podcast has spread misinformation about COVID-19 and vaccines, prompting270 health experts to call on Spotify in January to moderate misinformation. The calls for moderation have grown. Last week, musicians Neil Young and Joni Mitchell asked Spotifyto pull their music from the platform as long as Rogan’s podcast remained.

by inserting himself into the conversation, Bolsonaro can also highlight his popularity among MMA celebrities—another thing he happens to have in common with Trump—and encourage them to further spread his message of tech censorship.

MMA is thesecond orthird most popular sport in the Brazil, and Jair Bolsonaro has basked in the endorsements of MMA fighters like Darren Till who, as my former colleague Karim Zidanreported for Bloody Elbow, used his speech after a UFC fight in 2017 to tell viewers, “Lula in jail and Bolsonaro 2018!” (Lula is a reference to former leftist Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.) Zidan highlighted the dozens of fighters who have offered their support to Bolsonaro—many of whom arefriendly with Rogan—including BraziliansWanderlei Silva,Anderson Silva,Royce Gracie, andRenzo Gracie, who have between hundreds of thousands of followers to millions of followers each on social media.

Even with disinformation, the religious right, and MMA celebrities on Bolsonaro’s side, the Brazilian president appears to face an uphill battle to reelection. Bolsonaro’s handling of the pandemic, which has led to 629,000 deaths and counting, and its effects on the economy don’t bode well in the race against the popular former leftist Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Polls show if the election were held today, Lula could win by as many as 11 percentage points.

Tags: Eduardo Bolsonaro Jair Bolsonaro Joe Rogan Brazil Coronavirus COVID-19 Disinformation Misinformation Voter Fraud

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just weeks after broadcasting Jordan Peterson's bizarre climate views to his 11 million listeners, Joe Rogan hosted another climate change skeptic, Randall Carlson. Rogan has been at the center of climate-related controversies in recent years, and recently activists called on Spotify – which exclusively broadcasts Rogan’s podcast – to take action against his COVID-19 misinformation. Carlson’s main beat is lost civilizations, hidden mathematics, and a unique brand of climate conspiracy and skepticism.

Sierra Club, a national environmental organization, highlighted its concerns about Carlson’s frequent appearances on The Joe Rogan Experience in an article published last September. According to climate journalist and founder of the Critical Frequency podcast network Amy Westervelt:

The Joe Rogan Experience, with its millions of listeners, has hosted Randall Carlson more than once to talk for hours on end about how Earth's natural cycles (and sunspots, volcanoes, etc., etc.) are really to blame for climate change while "the so-called consensus view" on climate is driven by politics. Rather than press him for evidence, Rogan gifted Carlson with the quip "that's the real inconvenient truth."

Carlson has appeared at least six times on the podcast since 2014. In those appearances, he has asserted thatcarbon dioxide is not driving global warming and that natural factors” are driving climate change more than human factors. During his latest appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience, Carlson expressed skepticism about sea level rise and stated, “The sun was actually a much more important factor in climate change than had been acknowledged."

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despite the tepid assurances of Rogan’s guest, in the last year alone, we’ve seen blistering heat waves that killed hundreds of people in the U.S. and Canada, destructive wildfires, droughts that triggered the first ever water shortage in the country’s largest reservoir, and Hurricane Ida, which pummeled the South and unleashed “catastrophic” rains across the Northeast and mid-Atlantic region.

Globally, the flooding that devastated Europe last summer was the most expensive disaster in the continent’s history. Summer flooding in China resulted in the third most expensive disaster in Asian history. 2021 was one of the seven hottest years on record, and “since the 1980s, each decade has been warmer than the previous one,” according to the World Meteorological Organization.

To make matters more urgent, the window for meaningful climate action is rapidly closing. The warming detailed in the latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report –  and experienced by tens of millions of people in America alone – represents a “code red” for humanity, according to the United Nations. Each degree of additional warming poses increasingly existential risks for humanity in terms of public health, economic well-being, and social cohesion. Staving off climate change’s worst consequences will require rapid decarbonization and an immediate transition to renewable energy. Considering that the cost of inaction far outweighs the cost of action, the time to act is now.

Yet Rogan is providing a massive platform to climate deniers and skeptics during a time when meaningful climate action remains tenuous at best. Hosting these voices also aids the fossil fuel industry’s billion-dollar campaign to erode the public consensus on climate change and thwart basic climate action.

The majority of Americans, and likely many in Rogan's audience, want the government to take action on climate change. His insistence on hosting climate skeptics serves no one, except perhaps fossil fuel executives.

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https://www.mediamatters.org/climate-deniers/jordan-peterson-put-master-class-climate-denial-joe-rogans-podcast

jordan p more ppl die solar; left wing set forest fires; spotify ceo slippery slope

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https://www.alternet.org/2022/02/joe-rogan-2656597762/

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https://www.mediamatters.org/joe-rogan-experience/spotifys-joe-rogan-and-guest-jordan-peterson-suggest-trans-people-are-sign

of civ collapse

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good pt hard to filter deplat if no text 20 intimacy --> trust

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Rogan's controversial interview with anti-vaccination virologist Dr. Robert Malone caused such an uproar that more than scientists, doctors, and other health professionals signed an open letter to Spotify as a petition for his podcast to be removed from the platform.

While Rogan's spread of misinformation is quite alarming, a new analysis published by NPR's Shannon Bond explains how the controversy surrounding his situation underscores a bigger problem; one that appears to be a bit more difficult to regulate. In the open letter, health professionals and members of the scientific community argue that online platforms like Spotify have enabled right-wing figures who have become adept at spreading misinformation.

"We are in a global health emergency, and streaming platforms like Spotify that provide content to the public have a responsibility not to add to the problem," said Katrine Wallace, an epidemiologist at the University of Illinois Chicago's School of Public Health.

"Their friends and family were sending it to them as evidence that the vaccines are dangerous and that they shouldn't get it," she said. "It provides a sense of false balance, like there's two sides to the scientific evidence when, really, there is not. The overwhelming evidence is that the vaccines are safe and that they're effective."

Researchers specializing in the study of misinformation have suggested that it was inevitable for podcasts to become a point of contention. Like social media platforms, Bond notes that podcasts give individuals the ability to reach build large audiences. But despite the long reach, podcasts have not faced the type of scrutiny social media platforms have. So, why is that? Podcasts give influencers the ability to spread misinformation by way of audio.

Evelyn Douek, a research fellow for the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, explained why podcasts are far more difficult to regulate as it becomes a matter of words compared to audio.

"Wherever you have users generating content, you're going to have all of the same content moderation issues and controversies that you have in any other space," said Douek.

According to Bond, Douek also noted that "it's also harder to ferret out falsehoods and hate speech in podcasts compared with posts written on Facebook and Twitter."

Valerie Wirtschafter, a senior data analyst at the Brookings Institution, also weighed in with a similar perspective noting the distinction of audio and the potential problem it poses in the podcast world. "Audio can be a powerful way to spread misinformation because of all the qualities that make the format so compelling to listeners," said Wirtschafter.

Wirtschafter also stressed the importance of scrutinizing audio in the same manner written social media posts are.

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n the December 31 edition of his Spotify podcast, Joe Rogan invited scientist and COVID-19 misinformer Robert Malone to promote the upcoming Defeat The Mandates D.C. rally, which aims “to end the vaccine mandates” and other public health measures implemented during the pandemic.

Malone has repeatedly spread misinformation and conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic, including falsely claiming that “it's the unvaccinated that are at risk from the vaccinated.” Rogan has repeatedly spread lies about the coronavirus and vaccines on his Spotify podcast.

The Defeat The Mandates D.C. rally’s sponsors include Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s anti-vaccine group Children’s Health Defense and The Unity Project, whose leadership board includes a veritable array of COVID-19 misinformers, including Peter McCullough, Paul Alexander, Tess Lawrie, and Pierre Kory.

Notably, Rogan invited Malone back to promote the anti-vaccine rally after the two had already concluded the podcast episode, with Rogan stating, “So, folks, we actually went outside and talked, and Robert realized that he had forgot to tell everybody about this rally.” Malone then shared details of the rally and stated, “Our objective is to end the vaccine mandates. And also, no vaccine passports. No vaccination for healthy children.”

Interestingly, Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX) entered the podcast episode’s transcript into the Congressional Record but did not include the final section of the transcript when Rogan and Malone promoted the anti-vaccine rally. [vid]

 ROGAN (HOST): Thanks for everything. Bye everybody.

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So, folks, we actually went outside and talked, and Robert realized that he had forgot to tell everybody about this rally – and then I picked up Snoop, who’s with me now. So there is a rally, January 23, where is it? You want to give us the details?

ROBERT MALONE: Washington, D.C., between the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial. So this is the “Defeat the Mandates: An American Homecoming Rally.” And thanks a lot for letting me put the plug in. The website is www.defeatthemandatesdc.com. So this is not about being anti-vaccines. It's about being anti-mandates, and our hope is that we bring people together. I know that’s one of your core messages. People from every walk of life, every party, every religion, every ethnic background, Democrat, Republican, vaccinated, unvaccinated. A thing that we can agree on is personal liberty and the right of people to make their own choice. And that’s what this rally is about is to resist these mandates of the vaccine, whether you believe in it or don’t believe in it, I hope that you believe in the integrity and freedom of your fellow man and woman to make their own bodily choices.

So this is going to be part of a same-day, worldwide rally for freedom that’s going to come across the entire world.This is in Australia, in Europe, in U.K., and in the United States for the first time. So we ask that you join us. We’re asking – our objective is to end the vaccine mandates. And also, no vaccine passports. No vaccination for healthy children. No to censorship. No to limits on reasonable debate and this censorship and propaganda that we’re constantly bombarded with. We believe in the power of natural immunity. We believe and insist on informed consent. And we insist on allowing doctors and patients making decisions without interference together. So, Joe, thank you for allowing me to correct my grievous error here.

ROGAN: No worries, we realized it.

Rogan’s podcast is broadcast exclusively on Spotify and was the most popular podcast on the platform in 2021 and 2020. As The Washington Post has noted, “With an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, Rogan reaches nearly four times as many people as prime-time cable hosts such as Sean Hannity of Fox News Channel and Rachel Maddow of MSNBC.”

Despite Rogan repeatedly espousing misinformation and bigotry to his large audience, Spotify has refused to take any action to quell Rogan’s sexist, racist, and harmful commentary.

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https://www.mediamatters.org/joe-rogan-experience/joe-rogan-wrapped-year-covid-19-misinformation-right-wing-myths-and-anti-trans

say what you want we on spotify"

throughout his first full year streaming exclusively on Spotify, host Joe Rogan has repeatedly used his podcast to broadcast conspiracy theories, COVID-19 misinformation, and anti-trans rhetoric to millions of listeners across the globe. One year into his contract, it’s clear that Spotify’s $100 million paycheck to Rogan is funding increasingly dangerous and bigoted content.

Media Matters monitored over 350 hours of The Joe Rogan Experience over the past year and found that the show is grounded in misinformation and bigotry. To coincide with Spotify’s 2021 Wrapped -- an annual summary of the trends on the streaming platform -- we compiled some of the worst examples of Rogan’s sexist, racist, and harmful commentary over the past year -- all paid for by Spotify.

Rogan is a veritable megaphone of right-wing lies, and when he is called out for peddling dangerous rhetoric, he shields himself from any accountability by claiming he should not be considered a “respected source of information.” He has also repeatedly praised Spotify for being a safe space for him as the platform has refused to do anything to quell the misinformation and hate on his show; Rogan once told a guest that anti-trans attacks are acceptable on his show, saying, “You can say whatever you want. We’re on Spotify.”

The Joe Rogan Experience is broadcast exclusively on Spotify and was the most popular podcast on the platform in 2021 and 2020. As The Washington Post noted in May, “With an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, Rogan reaches nearly four times as many people as prime-time cable hosts such as Sean Hannity of Fox News Channel and Rachel Maddow of MSNBC.”

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200 million downloads?!

constant dribble of anti trans? thus macho?

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Joe Rogan calls out right-wing media for cherry-picking clips of interview with CNN's Sanjay Gupta

Joe Rogan, screengrab

Salon October 17, 2021

Joe Rogan doesn't appreciate it when media outlets cherry-pick his lengthy interviews for confrontational moments.

This week, it was right-wing media the popular podcast host appeared to be calling out, after a number of prominent conservative outlets shared snippets from Rogan's more than three-hour discussion with CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

In particular, several publications seized on a contentious back-and-forth over Rogan's personal use of the anti-parasite drug ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment — an unproven use which the FDA has discouraged.

At one point, Rogan even accused CNN of "lying" about his use of the drug, after at least one anchor said he was taking "horse de-wormer." Rogan maintains that he was prescribed ivermectin — the human version — by a doctor.

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"I can afford human drugs, motherf***er," he added at one point.

The clip spread like wildfire across social media — thanks to headlines from Fox News, Breitbart and a number of other conservative outlets — though Rogan clearly doesn't see the incident as representative of his entire conversation with Gupta.

"If you've only seen clips online you would think that @drsanjaygupta and I had a tense and uncomfortable encounter when we sat down for 3 hours," he wrote on his Instagram account. "The reality is that disagreement was a very small part of what was overall a very enjoyable conversation."

"Sanjay is a really nice person and I like him a lot. After our time together I consider him a friend," Rogan continued. "People on network TV don't have anything remotely similar to the kind of freedom I enjoy doing the podcast. For him to dive into my world and have an open form conversation with no restrictions took real courage, and I appreciate it very much."

According to Gupta, the major headline to come out of the interview was that Rogan claimed he almost got vaccinated, but didn't due to "logistical hurdles."

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Going into the interview, Gupta had hoped he would be able to change Rogan's mind about COVID-19 vaccination. Despite his efforts ultimately proving unsuccessful, he wrote at CNN: "Truth is though, I am still glad I did it."

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i forgot that he came out of MMA. cf BTB

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/ivermectin-conspiracy-theories/

Proponents of ivermectin as a treatment for covid are now in damage-control mode after a series of stories about people overdosing on horse paste and sheep drench from feed stores.

Such luminaries as Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Brett Weinstein and United States Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) stoked demand for the dewormer, only to have the craze blow up in the faces when the ginned-up demand outstripped the pharmaceutical supply and people started self-medicating with horse paste.

The zeal of the ivermectin prophets was self-defeating. The whole point of being an Ivermectin Guy is that you can indulge in antivaxx conspiracy theories while sounding smarter than the Microchip Guys. That's why they get so mad when you call it "horse paste."

Internet tough guy Joe Rogan will have you know that the ivermectin he (supposedly) took for his (supposed) covid was (supposedly) from a doctor. "Bro, do I have to sue CNN?" Rogan grumbled. "They're making shit up. They keep saying I'm taking horse dewormer." It's an image thing: Rooting for Team Horse Paste pushes you over the line from "bold independent thinker" to "utter crackpot."

The Basic Ivermectin Conspiracy Theory goes like this: There's a cheap cure for covid butBig Pharma doesn't want you to have it, because it's a generic drug. A more elaborate version, shared by the host of the aptly-named Dark Horse podcast on Tucker Carlson's show, posits that the government is refusing to acknowledge ivermectin as a safe and effective treatment for covid because to do so would somehow undercut the Emergency Use Authorizations for covid vaccines.

This makes no sense, given the government is funding an ivermectin trial. But it's not about the logic. It's about feeding the anti-vaxx fantasy that vaccine mandates will evaporate if we go all in on ivermectin. Human prescriptions for ivermectin soared from fewer than 4,000 a week pre-pandemic to nearly 90,000 a week in August.

Surging demand has caused shortages in pharmacies and feed stores alike. Docs and vets worry the fad will keep the drug out of the hands and off the hides of the creatures who really need it.

The hype beasts of the Intellectual Dark Web dangle a miracle cure in front of their credulous audience and pretend to be shocked when they hit up the feed store. Ivermectin boosters know that ethical doctors won't prescribe ivermectin for covid because there's no evidence it's a safe or effective against the virus. Indeed, the American Medical Association strongly advises against prescribing ivermectin for covid outside of a clinical trial.[so does mfgr]

Ivermectin kills the covid virus in a Petri dish, but only at concentrations that will never be matched in the human body — even if you take enough to choke a horse. The most famous clinical trial purporting to show benefit in humans waswithdrawn after it was determined the authors plagiarized the text from pro-ivermectin press releases and fabricated their data.The data are so implausible some experts question whether the trialever happened. Pro-ivermectin trials have a funny habit of appearing as pre-prints making fantastical claims before being retracted amid allegations of fraud or conflict of interest.

Ivermectin has a good safety record when it's prescribed by a doctor or a vet to treat parasites, but ivermectin-related calls to the nation's poison control centers have quintupled, because people are guesstimating doses of livestock meds. It's a fool's game. No safe or effective dosage has been established for covid because there's no good evidence it works. Ivermectin partisans are always reminding us that some guys won a Nobel Prize for using ivermectin to treat something else. They're showing their ignorance of medicine. The drug, the dose, and the diagnosis actually matter.

However, the real harm of the ivermectin craze is not the relatively rare—though completely pointless—horse paste ODs. It's the much larger group of people who are using ivermectin as an excuse not to get vaccinated, whether they're currently taking the drug or not. If you're on the fence about vaccination, the myth that ivermectin cures covid makes it easier to skip your shot.

Some pundits have chided irreverent commentators for poking fun at people who eschew a free, safe and effective vaccine and pay for animal drugs that won't cure covid. Americans aren't eating horse paste because it's a noble rural tradition to self-medicate from the tractor supply. Grifters played on people's hopes for a quick covid fix and their fear of vaccines, and now their fans are paying the price.

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https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/joe-rogan/

ivermectin horse dewormer

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https://www.alternet.org/2021/05/ron-johnson-vaccines/

no lnx

"Go get vaccinated, America," the president urged the nation last Wednesday in his State of the Union address. Joe Biden had a lot of good news to report to the US Congress on the COVID vaccination effort: 220 million shots have been administered in his first 100 days in office, everyone over 16 is eligible and 90 percent of Americans now live within five miles of a vaccination site. Vaccine manufacturing is booming. Supply will soon no longer be a limiting factor. Yet even as eligibility has expanded, demand has plateaued across the country and vaccination rates have dipped from their peak.

Time is of the essence. More transmissible variants of the virus mean a higher percentage of the population must be immunized to reach herd immunity. We're in a race between the finest that human civilization has to offer and venal dumbassery.

In one corner is science, bolstered by billions in public investment. Eighteen months ago, there were no vaccines for human coronaviruses. Today, there are multiple safe, highly-effective COVID shots. Better yet, thanks to wise public policy and all-hands-on-deck roll-out, they're available for free to any American adult. The president even announced tax credits to reimburse small- and mid-sized businesses that give their employees paid time off to get vaccinated and to recover from vaccine side effects.

In the opposite corner are demagogues, clout-chasers and magical thinkers. These operators think they can gain political power, attention and, in some cases, money by undermining vaccinations against a disease that has killed more than 588,000 people.

Power-hungry Republicans like United States Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin are positioning themselves as heirs to Donald Trump by opposing vaccinations. Johnson recently told a conservative radio host that distribution should have been limited to the truly vulnerable and he questioned the need for broad-based vaccination.

Johnson also attacked the civic-minded values behind the push for herd immunity. "What is it to you? You have got a vaccine and science is telling you it's very, very effective," Johnson asked, "So, why is this big push to make sure everybody gets a vaccine?" The answer is obviously herd immunity, which offers protection for those who can't get vaccinated or whose immune systems can't respond to the vaccine.

It's a shrewd bet. Forty-two percent of Republicans say they probably or definitely wouldn't get a shot, even if it's shown to be safe. The "even if shown to be safe" proviso speaks volumes. Some Republicans claim to be against vaccination as a matter of personal liberty, but nobody's forcing them to get vaccinated. It's all rationalization.

Vaccine refusal is a tribal touchstone, even as vaccine hesitancy ebbs generally. Indeed, last summer's heavily armed anti-lockdown sieges of state legislatures were the dress rehearsals for the January 6 insurgency. Rejecting vaccines is about values, not facts. These right-wingers reject vaccines because vaccines represent science, the welfare state and the common good, which are antithetical to everything they hold dear.

Johnson isn't the only Republican riding anti-vaccine paranoia. Perhaps the perfect example of how vaccine denialism furthers extreme right-wing political ambition is Pennsylvania State Senator Doug Mastriano, who freely mixes anti-government and anti-vaccine sentiment. Mastriano beat the rush and came out against the COVID vaccine before it existed. He was also a central player in the bid to steal the election for Trump. (He actually had to be pulled out of a meeting with then-president Trump because he was found to be suffering from COVID.) But he recovered enough to organize bus transportation for the January 6 insurrection. Mastriano's antics have transformed him from an obscure legislator to a gubernatorial hopeful.

State legislators in 40 states have introduced bills that would undermine vaccine mandates. These bills are to legislating what vaccine denialism is to science. Few will become law, but they are potent messaging designed to further politicize vaccination.

Some entertainers are also milking COVID denialism for ratings and notoriety. Podcaster Joe Rogan, a UFC commentator better known for his takes on elk meat and DMT, and his willingness to host conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones, opined that, "If you're, like, 21 years old, and you say to me, 'Should I get vaccinated?' I'll go no."

Rogan has 11 million listeners, many of them young. Predictably, Fox host Tucker Carlson defended Rogan's attempt to poison public understanding of vaccinations. Even Sean Hannity, who claims he's not anti-vaxx, flirted with vaccine denialism Tuesday, falsely suggesting there might not be any science behind the vaccine.

In a desperate bid to become Twitter's main character, a D-list Republican pundit gave the game away: "My primary reason for refusing the vaccine is much simpler: I dislike the people who want me to take it, and it makes them mad when they hear about my refusal. That, in turn, makes me happy." He's a troll, but he speaks the truth.

We're not just dealing with garden-variety vaccine hesitancy anymore. We're up against a cynical campaign to turn vaccination into a referendum on science, the welfare state and social solidarity. If that's how they want to play it, fine.

Vaccines are the greatest triumph of medicine. Public health is a crowning achievement of the welfare state. What we have done together to battle COVID is a testament to our love for ourselves, our neighbors and our country. Those are our values. The Republicans have called the question. Which side are you on?

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Should Trump be allowed back on social media?

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https://www.alternet.org/2021/04/joe-rogan/

yng ppl no vax

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https://www.mediamatters.org/joe-rogan-experience/joe-rogan-and-guest-joke-about-shooting-killing-and-vaporizing-homeless-people

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joe Rogan spread the unfounded conspiracy theory that COVID-19 started in a lab.

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https://www.mediamatters.org/justice-civil-liberties/joe-rogan-spent-another-episode-his-podcast-advocating-against-accepting

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an 420 (heh) Joe Rogan becomes new face of ‘Bernie or bust’ by saying he’d vote for Trump over Biden

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schlock reality TV fear factor

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Penn Jillette: Trump Jr. mistook my fascination with his father’s mental problems as affection

Raw Story

Magician and former “Celebrity Apprentice” contestant Penn Jillette on Thursday explained what it was like to spend time with Donald Trump. Jillette said on the Joe Rogan Experience that Trump…

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https://www.alternet.org/2019/08/right-wing-media-outlets-are-booming-in-the-trump-era-report/

no lnx

Right-wing media outlets are booming in the Trump era: report

Written by Alex Henderson August 26, 2019

Right-wing media outlets have traditionally experienced their biggest growth when a Democrat was in the White House. Many far-right outlets knew how to turn fear-mongering over President Bill Clinton in the 1990s or President Barack Obama in the late 2000s/early 2010s into major advertising revenue. But in a report for Axios, Sara Fischer explains that some right-wing outlets have been enjoying substantial growth under a Republican president: Donald Trump.

Citing a Columbia Journalism Review analysis of right-wing websites using Comscore data, Fischer reports that RedState, the Washington Times and the Washington Examiner are among the outlets that have been thriving during the Trump era. Those sites, Fischer notes, “are experiencing major growth by widening their coverage. Their goal is to cover whatever is capturing the world’s attention that day, from human interest stories to trending entertainmentdevelopments.”

Fischer notes that although the right-wing Weekly Standard folded in late 2018, other websites on the right continue to “rank high” in terms of “engagement on Facebook” — and Fox News, according to Fischer, remains “the #1 news site on Facebook” in 2019 “in terms of reader engagement,” according to the analytics company Newswhip.

Podcasts that have been thriving in the Trump era, Fischer reports, include “The Joe Rogan Experience” and “The Ben Shapiro Show.” Shapiro, she points out, has “built a megabrand aimed at targeting younger conservatives.”

Fischer stresses, however, that although “conservative media remains strong across most major media platforms,” some “left-leaning outlets” — including HuffPost— “rank highly” in the Trump era. But Trump’s presidency and the 2020 election, she writes, continue to benefit right-wing media.

“Typically, the opposition party has a media explosion in response to whichever political group is in power,” Fischer reports. “But the economic stress of the media industry, combined with the Trump-driven conservative strategy of broad messaging, has upended that dynamic.”

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behind bast says stefan moly redpill

at least 3 episodes

"Stefan Molyneux is a Canadian philosopher. He runs the #1 philosophy show on the internet, Freedomain .."

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https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/infowars-paul-joseph-watson-launching-new-project-generate-next-generation-youtubers

Far-right conspiracy theorist and Infowars personality Paul Joseph Watson announced the launch “probably within the next two weeks” of a new project that aims to “generate the next generation of YouTubers, of young political commentators.”

While appearing on Infowars program The Alex Jones Showon March 5, Watson said that his project will still involve “working together” with Infowars and that the two entities are “still going to be affiliated.” While host Alex Jones and many of his primary Infowars channels are banned from YouTube, Watson currently maintains a YouTube page with more than 1.5 million subscribers.

During Watson’s appearance, Jones said that he had been working with Watson for 18-19 years and that he was “excited” about the new project, saying, “That’s what successful operations do is they spawn new things, and I think in time you will also spawn apprentices as well.” Attempting to dismiss speculation of infighting between Jones and Watson, Jones said that the project was “pretty much my idea.”

Watson described his project as “an exciting new operation, it’s going to be where all my material is housed, and hopefully longer term we’re going to get more writers on board and organically grow it into a larger news org,” adding that he is “hoping to, you know, generate the next generation of YouTubers, of young political commentators.”

While for a time Watson was best known for being a conspiracy theorist and source of sometimes hilariously incorrect information, his commentary has taken a darker turn in recent years. In a 2018 interview with The Daily Beast, Alex Jones’ ex-wife Kelly Jones said of Infowars, “They’ve transmogrified into little white supremacists which is alarming crap,” and “Paul’s white supremacy is growing -- I know it’s a difficult issue, this refugee crisis -- but they are actively encouraging white supremacy.” Indeed, months before the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, VA, Watson interviewed the event’s organizer, Jason Kessler, about “anti-white racism."

Watson’s new project appears to be the latest effort of Infowars to get its brand of toxic commentary before a younger audience on a platform where the outlet is largely banned. On February 27, Jones made a nearly five-hour appearance on Joe Rogan’s show The Joe Rogan Experience during which he ranted and pushed outlandish conspiracy theories.The appearance has drawn more than 10 million views and Rogan’s channel is monetized, meaning YouTube is profiting off of the video through ad revenue sharing. Likewise, newly hired Infowars personality Kaitlin Bennett made a February 25 appearance on massive YouTube star Logan Paul’s podcast. Like Rogan’s show, Paul’s podcast is monetized. Recapping her appearance with Jones on his program, Bennett gloated about sharing with Paul’s audience a “perspective on gun rights and the Second Amendmentthat they probably didn’t think they were ever going to watch.” Jones said he was “glad” Bennett appeared on the show because of its large audience and because it’s hosted by the “college kids that the tweenies and 13-year-olds look up to.” Jones also said he would like to appear on the show himself.

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https://podcastnotes.org/2018/08/26/tyson/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joe_Rogan_Experience

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Hedegaard, Erik (October 22, 2015). "How Joe Rogan Went From UFC Announcer to 21st-Century Timothy Leary". Rolling Stone. 

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apparently invokes sagan on pot

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origin stanhope

Although his views have led people to believe that he is a liberal, he does not accept this characterization. Stanhope says that libertarianism was a phase he went through, but he now describes himself as an anarchist.[39][40]

In 2004, he endorsed the Free State Project, a proposed political migration of at least 20,000 libertarians to a single low-population state, in order to make the state a stronghold for libertarian ideas. According to Stanhope this is an idea "that could produce tangible change in our lifetime."[41]

In 2012, Stanhope originally supported Republican Ron Paul for the 2012 presidential election, but later endorsed Libertarian Gary Johnson.[42]

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Alex Jones has found a new home on Instagramafter being largely removed from the likes of Facebook, YouTube, and Spotify. Instagram, which is owned by Facebook, is the only major platform that continues to permit Jones and Infowars to publish content. Jones gained a massive amount of Instagram followers after his appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, which is increasingly a magnetfor the far right.

Jones has used his Instagram account -- which has about 314,000 followers -- to post videos featuring hate speech, conspiracy theories, and various extremist figures who have already been banned from the platform.

On his account, Jones posted an Infowars clip claiming that "globalists" in the U.N. are "flooding nations with millions of foreigners who have no intention to assimilate and who are not held accountable for their criminal actions." This white supremacist talking point -- that migrant caravans are evidence of a Jewish plot to replace white people -- was embraced by the shooter who killed 11 people in a Pittsburgh, PA synagogue last October.

Another post featured anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant extremist Katie Hopkins describing immigrants "snaking their way" through Europe and pushing out "white Christians" and "Christian culture."

Since publication of this Media Matters report on Jones' move to Instagram, three videos containing anti-LGBTQ speech and three videos containing white nationalist content have been removed from Jones' account. They appear to have been removed by Jones. In addition, six posts and one IGTV video featuring Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes have been removed from Jones' account. These videos appear to have been removed by Instagram for violating their community guidelines.

Also: Alex Jones and Infowars had a secondary YouTube channel where they pushed conspiracy theories. In one of the videos, Jones even alleged that the New Zealand mosque shootings were a false flag. After Media Matters reported on the channel, YouTube removed it, citing violations of YouTube's terms of service.

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Watson’s new project appears to be the latest effort of Infowars to get its brand of toxic commentary before a younger audience on a platform where the outlet is largely banned. On February 27, Jones made a nearly five-hour appearance on Joe Rogan’s show The Joe Rogan Experience during which he ranted and pushed outlandish conspiracy theories. The appearance has drawn more than 10 million views and Rogan’s channel is monetized, meaning YouTube is profiting off of the video through ad revenue sharing. Likewise, newly hired Infowars personality Kaitlin Bennett made a February 25 appearance on massive YouTube star Logan Paul’s podcast. Like Rogan’s show, Paul’s podcast is monetized. Recapping her appearance with Jones on his program, Bennett gloated about sharing with Paul’s audience a “perspective on gun rights and the Second Amendment that they probably didn’t think they were ever going to watch.” Jones said he was “glad” Bennett appeared on the show because of its large audience and because it’s hosted by the “college kids that the tweenies and 13-year-olds look up to.” Jones also said he would like to appear on the show himself.

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May 31, 2018

Candace Owens, TPUSA's Communications Director until May 2019, saidin a podcast with Joe Rogan: [99]

“Let's say we all agree that global warming is real - I don't believe it's real… I personally think that this was just the next - the fact that it was presented to us by Al Gore and it's just -” [100]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=450&v=9lD29jqH078

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YouTube removed the channels of Infowars, leaving conspiracy theorist Alex Jones unable to post videos on the platform. But Jones has a new strategy to reach people on YouTube: He wants to be a guest on the most popular channels, including channels that reach children. Many of these programs are monetized through YouTube.

On February 27, Jones appeared for nearly five hours on Joe Rogan’s show The Joe Rogan Experience. Jones made a number of wildly racist statements during the appearance. So far, the episode has been viewed over 7 million times.

Infowars personality Kaitlin Bennett -- aka the “Kent State Gun Girl” -- also made a lengthy appearance on the massively popular Impaulsive Podcast on February 25. The channel has nearly 1.3 million subscribers on YouTube, and Logan Paul, the primary personality, has nearly 19 million subscribers on his personal channel.

Jones praised Bennett's appearance, saying it is “important” for Infowars to reach young people. Jones said that he wants to do even more of that: “I would love to invite Logan Paul on the show. I would also love to go on that broadcast because I’d like to be able to speak to my oldest daughter’s audience and tell my daughter, ‘Now, be good, and don’t vape like the other girls.’”

It's imperative that YouTube not incentivize other channels giving Jones hours of airtime. One easy step is that YouTube could choose to demonetize videos that Jones appears on. So far they've chosen not to.

Also: A new study finds that recommendations on YouTube for 'alt-right' videos have dropped dramatically. Advertiser issues have also forced YouTube to finally deal with its child predator problem.

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###Joe Rogan | The Long Term Effects of Climate Change - YouTube

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#1259 - David Wallace-Wells | JRE Library

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Jun 15, 2018 - Joe Rogan & Candace Owens Debate Climate Change ... That was the proof that CO2 caused global warming and now with more research ...

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Podcasts where climate change is a big topic? : JoeRogan - Reddit

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I know Joe and his guests usually talk about a wide variety of things, but what are some podcasts which primarily focus on climate change? ... submission guidelines: Follow these rules when submitting JRE podcast episodes.

Sacred Geometry International – Climate Change

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Scientific American on Twitter: "Joe Rogan referenced this article on ...

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Candace Owens Is CLUELESS On Climate Change — A Skeptical ...

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Dec 9, 2018 - Candace Owens recently appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience, making ... no idea what she's talking about when it comes to global warming.

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===hmn ratonal wiki

Rogan has a podcast called *The Joe Rogan Experience*,[1] which features guests, many times his friends, or scientists (Neil deGrasse Tyson),[2] activists, authors, social media figures, and other fellow comedians.

He is somewhat known for his fringe views, which include New Age ideas. Raised Catholic, his spiritual views are now derived from "experiences" he's had using psychedelic drugs.[3] He has promoted numerous conspiracy theories, and is notable in part because he does so.[4]

Rogan is also a personal friend of Alex Jones[5] and has been featured several times on InfoWars together with Alex, also providing "InfoWars-exclusive interviews".[6][7]

Some fundies think he's a demon[8] and/or an Illuminati member.[9][10]

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Joe Rogan Questions Everything

In 2013, Joe Rogan hosted a show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.[11] The show was aired on SyFy and only lasted 6 episodes. The show debunked conspiracy theories such as a "bigfoot human hybrid"[12] and HAARP making chemtrails.[13]

Pseudoscience promotion[edit]

Joe Rogan has, on many different occasions, expressed doubt over fairly established medical knowledge. He has expressed doubt over the existence of some kinds of Autism, as well as ADHD ("Didn't someone just say that they invented that? And that it's not real?").[14]

Transgender talks[edit]

"Transgenderism" with Kyle Kulinski[edit]

Joe Rogan has many doubts over the transgender experience and invited a couple of guests to speak about it, one of them being Kyle Kulinski.[15] Specifically, he doesn't think transition is effective, despite many submitted studies speaking otherwise,.[16][17][18] and claims it "doesn't have an impact on suicide rates" ...except that it does.[19][20] It is true however that studies have found a similar suicide rate for post and pre-transition gender dysphoric individuals, although these same studies mentioned typically explore what's behind the post-transition suicide rate, and the causes are never discussed. Growing and improved studies further suggest that the rate decreases post-transition. All studies thus far agree that the causes of post-transition suicidality are familial nonacceptance, social rejection, harassment, discrimination (in employment and housing), lack of access to medical care, violence, etc. ^[21]

Rogan also claims transition is "elective" care, and suggested that there was no difference between having gender dysphoria and feeling a need to transition to address it, and "wanting bigger tits". It is no question that gender dysphoria is debilitating (causing physiological and psychological stress that may cause mental trauma).[16] While it's not urgent for some transgender people to acquire some aspects of transitioning, wanting medical care to address debilitating conditions is not "elective".

Rogan may have additionally remarked that the term "gender dysphoria" may be a form of hate speech to some people. While baffling to many medical professionals and trans people, the term may be a form of hate speech to groups such as TERFs.

Age of transitioning[edit]

There is a spoken concern by Rogan, that transgender people are transitioning before the age of twenty five, and too many transitioning too young. Claims that suggest transitioning before the brain stops developing entirely before the age of twenty five will mess up your brain is entirely untrue when you consider that no 12 year olds that start puberty are cognitively messed up. Endocrinologists suggest that children who reach puberty should only be put on hormone blockers to prevent undergoing changes under the wrong primary hormone,[22] and the transition to the rightful primary hormone should proceed safely at age 16.[16] Tests of individuals starting the replacement therapy at age twelve reported normal progression,[18] and the delay of hormone replacement therapy can impair cognitive abilities.[16] Puberty suppression causes no irreversible or harmful changes.[22]

Joe Rogan defending children's rights against Adam Conover[edit]

Joe Rogan, while thinking women are 'hard-wired' to be attracted to athletic male bodies[23], decided to spring a conversation on Adam Conover, the host and program creator of TruTV's Adam Ruins Everything, about transgender athletes and children.[24] Conover wasn't prepared but felt compelled to defend, he later pins a tweet[25] linking to a website[26] that already confirms what was speculated above in hopes that JRE fans will read and learn that Rogan did not learn, alongside Olympic history with trans candidates.

External links[

-Joe Rogan Experience #1085 Kyle Kulinski

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