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July 16, 2026, edition of MS NOW's All In with Chris Hayes

CHRIS HAYES (HOST): This is interesting, Angelo. This was Matthew Gertz at — your colleague pulled this up, this is the Fox website. They are not going big on, like, again, in line with this theme of the people who sort of are like most invested in Republican political electoral success in the midterms. They're not going huge on this. It does seem like there's a general recognition of people around him. This is not what you want to be doing.

ANGELO CARUSONE (MEDIA MATTERS PRESIDENT): Yeah, and look, they got burned really bad, in particular the last time when they carried water for a bunch of election attacks. Because a lot of what we're going to hear tonight, and that's the tell, is going to be retread from the 2020 election lies. But in effect, you know, it used to matter a lot what Fox was doing, especially in this context because of the feedback loop. You needed them to act to get the party and the populace motivated, and that would then create action. But it's one in the same, John Solomon, as it was mentioned, you know, this is a guy that's running the task force. He can do a podcast on and a segment on Steve Bannon in the morning, and then walk into the White House and begin to execute and implement. The lines are gone. You no longer need that power. And that's what's different this time than last time.

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If if there's a big if there's a big financial like basically they overshot and the finances of

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this crumble, right? Yeah. Do you I mean I guess there's two ways I can think about obviously

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there's a bunch of things. There's two things that could happen, right? Like one is you can see this as like okay maybe that was a dead end or um and we start getting hyped about something new,

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whatever the next version of the metaverse is. or that all of that, you know, the sort

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of necessity mother of invention thing, like all of those old values that people had around compute

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power and efficiency and resource constraint and start to come back in to push this in new

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and interesting ways. Which is to say like when you're not just sort of brute force hyperscaling,

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um maybe there's another path that this takes that is interesting and innovative. uh without

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that perhaps you know the the reason we're on this path is because I don't there's this bundle

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of ideologies that my collaborator and I call the test grillil bundle I'm I'm not going to go you know it's the transhumanist and the effect of altruism long termist and all that and what they

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did is they I was I've been advocating for task specific models as we discussed and they lamented

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that the field had gone towards that direction and they really wanted to create what's called AGI,

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which I believe is a machine god. I don't really know how else to explain it. I've never been interested in building a machine gun. And now, if you are building a machine god, of course,

you have to use all of the world's resources. Guess what? Because a machine god will just solve everything. Like, you'll build the thing that will solve climate change. But they they explicitly

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say that, by the way. I mean, this is this is a view that this is not a caricature of the view. This is a view that Sam Alman once said Sam Alman said um that his revenue plan his profitability

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plan for open AI was to build AGI and then ask the machine ask the model how to make money. Yeah. And

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also Ilas Escover also said when people asked him about um you know uh how how do you bake ethics

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into your work he said at some point the in the future the model will tell us what is more what is

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ethical. So you know and m and Sam Alman called it Sam magic intelligence in the sky. Now in

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this camp you have believers, true believers that they, you know, true believers um who want to live

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forever and they think we can upload our minds and colonize the cosmos and stuff and then you have

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people uh who I don't think are true believers but they use that narrative to excite other people.

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Right? So the thing is on the one hand you're saying m you know we will build the machine

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god that solves everything. Of course we have to use all of our resources. However, however,

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uh we might accidentally build the machine devil instead. And so you don't want anybody else to

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build the machine devil. You don't want China to build the machine devil. So you should make sure that we build the machine god. Like not, you know, the best uh thing. What is it? The the the

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best thing to stop a guy with a gun, a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, right? So you a bad guy with a machine devil is to stop a good person with a machine gun. That's literally

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their argument. So that's how they push they push this agenda. I I've to be honest I've seen how

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propaganda works the best on this seeing how this whole thing played out because I saw these people for you know more than a decade pushing this and slowly making it into the mainstream because they

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used to be left out of the room even within the field of AI. The whole AGI thing was not at all

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um popular. And when um Elon Musk and all these people, Peter Thiel started talking

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about how AI is summoning the devil and how we should worry more about AI than climate change,

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people thought they were ridiculous, right? But now it's be it became mainstream. But now I don't

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think this this line of uh uh conversation is really working out for them because investors

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are asking about returns, right? And so now what like but that that's not when they go to investors

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they're not talking about good guy with a machine god bad guy with a machine god. They're talking about how many people they're going to replace with their machine. They're not doing that right

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like this good guy with machine god bad guy with machine god. That's for the public right that's to get us on board. where for the investors they but the thing is a lot of what's been working is

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they just you know you see how many people are hidden like there's we work with people called AI impersonators I don't know if you've heard of what what they are AI impersonators are people who

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imperson who pretend to be AI like they pretend to be chat bots so these all of these kind of

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um Amazon's you know automatic checkout which turned out to be actually people watching you

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all of these um people in the Philippines and uh Whimos like actually watching and stuff like that, right? So, what you're doing to a certain extent is obfuscating to a large extent actually the

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Dr. Timnit Gebru coined the acronym TESCREAL (which includes Transhumanism, Effective Altruism, and Longtermism) to critique the dominant, utopian ideologies driving Silicon Valley tech elites like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. [1, 2, 3]

The TESCREAL ideologies and their relationships to key tech figures include:

The TESCREAL Bundle: A cluster of futurist, techno-utopian philosophies (Transhumanism, Extropianism, Singularitarianism, Cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and Longtermism) that Dr. Gebru and philosopher Émile P. Torres detailed in their influential paper on The TESCREAL Bundle. [1, 2]

The Critique of Eugenics: Gebru and Torres argue that these ideologies have deep historical roots in Anglo-American eugenics. They suggest that modern efforts to build Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) often serve as a cover to centralize power and justify potentially harmful technological risks to marginalized groups today. [1, 2, 3]

Musk, Thiel, and Transhumanism: Tech billionaires like Elon Musk (through ventures like Neuralink) and Peter Thiel (who funds various life-extension and tech initiatives) embody many of these transhumanist and long-termist goals. [1, 2]

Longtermism & Effective Altruism: Long-termists prioritize the distant future over present-day human suffering, which Gebru argues allows executives to bypass immediate global crises in favor of extreme, sci-fi goals like colonizing space or building digital simulations. [1, 2,]

Dr. Gebru's Alternative: Following her departure from Google, Dr. Gebru founded the Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR). DAIR advocates for smaller, context-specific AI models that center human dignity and benefit local communities, countering the one-size-fits-all approach of TESCREAL-driven tech giants. , 2, 3, 4, 5]

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Timnit Gebru founded the Distributed AI Research Institute after her high-profile exit from Google’s Ethical AI team. She’s been a vocal critic of the systemic lack of diversity in learning models and the need for more inclusion in the space. Her view is that because AI so heavily relies on human input, it largely mirrors pervasive biases inherent in society. What needs to be done to change that? She joins WITHpod to discuss what, in her view, large language models are missing.

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Chris Hayes: Trump and Musk took a chainsaw to the obscure government programs that kept flesh-eating screwworms away from American farms. And now that failure could hit farmers, ranchers, and your grocery bill.

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September 17, 2025, edition of MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes

CHRIS HAYES (HOST): So given that context, I want you to look around the U.S. right now and see what's been happening here, right in front of our eyes. In July, the Trump FCC — that's the entity that Brendan Carr controls — approved the sale of Paramount, with it CBS, to Skydance Media, which is controlled by the family of pro-Trump tech billionaire named Larry Ellison. It was his son, actually, who's buying it. Now that approval only came after Paramount paid Trump $60 million to settle the president's obvious frivolous, ludicrous lawsuit against CBS News and 60 Minutes for editing interviews, and after the Ellisons agreed to eliminate DEI programs, and after they agreed to install an executive formerly from a conservative think tank to essentially act as a sort of ideological minder at CBS News for political bias. So they did all those things, then they got the approval for this very, very large merger. After that, CBS canceled Stephen Colbert's top-rated late-night show, which was notorious for its criticism of the sitting president.

Last week, after Larry Ellison officially leapfrogged another pro-Trump billionaire, Elon Musk, to become the world's richest man, the new Paramount conglomerate made another media bid, this time for Warner Brothers Discovery, which just so happens to own CNN. So there's a possibility that they could purchase that and roll that up as well. Then yesterday we got this news about TikTok, perhaps you've seen it. Do you remember the Chinese-owned app that was banned as a security risk because of a bipartisan vote in both houses of Congress and signed into law by Joe Biden? And then Donald Trump just literally ignored the law while he searched for a U.S. buyer. Well, yesterday there was news of a framework of a deal. Interesting. Let's see what the deal is — gives Americans an 80% stake in TikTok. Which Americans? Well, you'll never guess. Yes, Larry Ellison is one of them, along with far-right venture capitalist, Trump donor, DOGE consultant, MAGA-backer Marc Andreessen.

As Talking Points Memo noted, if all those deals all go through that would mean the Murdoch family controlling Fox News, the Journal, New York Post, its other properties. Twitter, TikTok, CBS, CNN and more owned by Elon Musk and the Ellison family. The Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos. The Trump administration is threatening to bring the government down on free speech and use it against dissent. It is also facilitating the sale of some of our biggest private media outlets to Trump allies, and is a very obvious attempt to consolidate power over free expression.

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TV news barely covered Trump's Big Oil “quid pro quo” last year. Now that it's come to fruition, networks should give the scandal the attention it deserves.

Big Oil lands $1 billion tax break in Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” as EPA staff are to “pause” oil and gas enforcement

Special ProgramsClimate & Energy

Written by Allison Fisher

:{Published 06/20/25

Last May, The Washington Post published an exclusive story on a dinner at Mar-a-Lago in which Donald Trump promised to reverse then-President Joe Biden's actions on climate change as he asked Big Oil executives to fundraise $1 billion for his presidential campaign, assuring that they would be getting a “deal” due to the “taxation and regulation they would avoid thanks to him.” Reportedly, oil and gas executives did make “significant contributions to the Trump campaign.”

Over a four-day period, MSNBC was the only major TV network to cover the story, which All In host Chris Hayes described as “a political quid pro quo.”

Now, two new stories emerged this week that give more context to the promised “deal” the oil and gas industry is getting under Trump’s second term. National TV networks should inform their audience about how Big Oil is benefitting under Trump.

Bloomberg reported on June 17 that the Senate version of Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” now includes a tax break for the oil and gas industry “estimated to be worth more than $1 billion.”

The provision would allow energy companies subject to a 15% corporate alternative minimum tax to deduct certain drilling costs when calculating their taxable income. Companies including ConocoPhillips, Ovintiv Inc. and Civitas Resources, Inc. lobbied in favor of it.

The change was included in the legislation released Monday by Republicans on the Senate tax writing committee, which would slash tax credits for wind, solar, electric vehicles and hydrogen.

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Other supporters of the measure, which wasn’t included in the House version of the bill, include the Domestic Energy Producers Alliance, founded by oil billionaire and Trump donor Harold Hamm.

The same legislation would repeal tax credits for the clean power industry, which would threaten more than 800,000 jobs and raise energy prices for consumers.

In fact, clean energy technologies constituted93% of new power generation capacity added to the grid last year alone, and the climate provisions in the Inflation Reduction Actwhich Trump wants repealed, “have spurred the highest levels of factory construction in American history, with more than 400,000 new jobs announced across the country.”

Meanwhile, CNN reported on June 16 that “the Environmental Protection Agency has told staff overseeing the country’s industrialized Midwest — a region plagued by a legacy of pollution — to stop enforcing violations against fossil fuel companies.”

Four sources with knowledge of the situation at the EPA’s Region 5 office, which oversees six Midwestern states, told CNN that enforcement officials were informed that “there is a pause on oil and gas enforcement” at staff meetings.

“That is how our regional management is interpreting signals from the president,” the EPA enforcement staffer said.

Officers stopped being able to issue notices of violation or send information requests to fossil fuel companies suspected of polluting, the sources told CNN. A violation notice is a prerequisite for taking a company to court for alleged violations of environmental laws.

These instructions are on top of other administration efforts to radically reduce safeguards that protect Americans from fossil fuel-related pollution and open up more land for oil and gas drilling.

Earlier this month, for example, the EPA announced plans to eliminate Biden-era regulations limiting the amount of carbon emissions and other pollution released into the atmosphere by fossil fuel-fired power plants. CBS reported the rule the EPA seeks to revoke “is projected to reduce 1.38 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere by 2047, as well as eliminate tens of thousands of tons of other harmful air pollutants that are dangerous to public health” — an amount of pollution “equivalent to driving more than 320 million gas-powered cars for a year, according to an EPA estimate.”

The new CNN report also notes:

An early snapshot of enforcement data from Trump’s start of his second term shows the overall number of EPA enforcement cases initiated or closed across sectors has dropped by 32% compared with the first three months of the Biden administration, according to publicly available EPA data analyzed for CNN by environmental watchdog Environmental Integrity Project. The same data shows nearly 60% fewer cases have been initiated or closed compared with the first three months of Trump’s first term.

Taken together, these reductions in taxes, regulations, and enforcement for the fossil fuel industry are essentially what Trump promised to deliver for Big Oil in exchange for backing his 2024 campaign.

At the time, The Atlantic’s David A. Graham described the proposition as “undeniably scandalous.” Now that these gifts to Big Oil are being delivered, TV networks should inform their audience about the dirty “deal” between Trump and Big Oil playing out at the expense of the booming clean energy industry, our health, and our climate.

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### Alex Jones says he's “very, very sad” about Trump's “big, big mistake” in striking Iran

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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast - How Project 2025 is Reshaping America with David Graham | Free Listening on Podbean App

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We got a pretty clear heads up about what Trump 2.0 could portend for so many facets of American life. The Mandate for Leadership, also known as Project 2025, is perhaps the clearest compilation of goals for Trump’s second term. Now that 100 days have passed of the second Trump administration, we thought it would be a good time to see where things stand. David Graham is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of “The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America.” He joins WITHpod to discuss what has already been done, what’s been most surprising, how he sees the plans playing out and more.

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Cable news is barely covering Trump and GOP plans to slash Medicaid

Written by Harrison Ray

Research contributions from Chloe Simon & Tyler Monroe

Published 12/10/24

Cable news networks largely ignored changes the incoming Trump administration and congressional Republicans are reportedly considering to limit access to Medicaid.

The proposals have raised alarms among health care advocates, who warn of potentially devastating impacts to vulnerable populations including children, seniors, and people with disabilities.

Since November 14, CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC have given the Republicans’ potential plans only 40 minutes of coverage. MSNBC led networks with over 33 minutes coverage. However, both CNN and Fox News largely failed to cover the story. CNN devoted just 6 minutes to the potential Medicaid cuts, while Fox News devoted less than a minute of coverage.

Reporting suggests that Republicans are exploring significant cuts to Medicaid, largely by making eligibility requirements more strict and capping funding. Based on past GOP efforts, advocates and reporters expect work requirements — which would leave many unemployed Americans without health insurance — to play a significant role in the plans. A 2023 Congressional Budget Office analysis estimated that adding work requirements alone could strip hundreds of thousands of Americans of their health insurance and affect several million more.

During Trump's first term, Arkansas implemented the strictest work requirements in the country. A recent PubMed Central study of the outcomes in Arkansas said the added requirements “led to coverage losses associated with significant negative impacts on medical debt and affordability of care, without improving employment.” It added:

We find no evidence that the policy succeeded in its stated goals of promoting work and instead find substantial evidence of harm to health care coverage and access. Our results should provide a strong note of caution for federal and state policymakers considering work requirement policies in the future.

Congressional Republicans have also hinted at returning to their 2017 proposal of enacting block grants, which cap federal funding to state-level Medicaid programs. As an article from Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) explained at the time, “The potential impact [of enacting block grants] is significant. More than 10 million who got insurance through Obamacare are on Medicaid and could be affected.”

A more recent analysis from KFF explained that if Republicans went ahead with cuts to Medicaid by decreasing the federal matching rate for people covered under the Affordable Care Act’s Medicaid expansion, the “health coverage implications would likely be significant.” It explained:

This financing change would shift a substantial amount of Medicaid spending from the federal government to states. States would then need to decide whether to use states funds to make up for the lost federal funding or cut coverage. Given the challenges states would face replacing substantial lost federal funds, the health coverage implications would likely be significant and could reverse gains in financial security, access to care, and health outcomes. A large body of prior research shows that Medicaid expansion has helped to reduce the uninsured and improve access, affordability, and financial security among the low-income population. More recent research shows improvements in health outcomes and continues to show positive effects for providers (particularly rural hospitals) and for sexual and reproductive health.

From November 14, 2024, when The Associated Press reported that Republicans won control of the House of Representatives, spurring additional reporting regarding the GOP's plans to limit Medicaid access, through December 9, 2024, Fox News mentioned the GOP's plans only 3 times, for a total of less than 1 minute. The network failed to air a single full segment dedicated to the plan, while 2 of the 3 mentions came from Democratic guests on the network.

CNN aired only 1 segment about the GOP's plans and an additional 10 mentions, bringing the network's total coverage to just over 6 minutes.

Meanwhile, MSNBC gave the plans the most coverage, airing at least 9 segments, along with several mentions, bringing the network total to just over 33 minutes. Of any show on any network, MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes provided the most coverage of the plans, discussing them for at least 7 minutes.

Trump and congressional Republicans pursued similar efforts during Trump’s first term, including allowing states to implement work requirements and roll back Medicaid expansions. Given the huge public support for Medicaid, news networks should devote more coverage to these potentially devastating cuts.

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cHRIS HAYES (HOST): Fox News has settled the defamation suit brought against them by Dominion Voting Systems, but the underlying problem -- and it's a deep and profound one -- is not going anywhere. And now Fox has to pay 787 million dollars for a bind they got themselves into. It's a bind that the whole country is in, in a certain way, but what I'm talking about is the problem, which is that tens of millions of our fellow citizens live in such a constrained informational environment and are so distrusting of any alternative sources of information, they operate in what is basically an entirely separate informational sphere.

I think the best way to understand this is just to look at some data, right? The spectrum of sources, for instance, that the median Republican primary voter consumes versus the median Democratic voter. So, Democrats consume and trust a wide variety of sources -- The New York Times, The Washington Post, this network -- a broad spectrum of the mainstream media, the progressive media, across the board. The spectrum of what Republicans consume is way, way smaller. First and foremost, they trust Fox News. That is their dominant source along with just a few others, like talk radio and OAN. It's a very, very small universe of ideologically partisan-aligned sources of information.

And here's the thing, that didn't happen by accident. That is the product of a successful effort by Fox News and others, a lot of other conservatives who have waged a decades-long war -- going back to the 1960s -- on the mainstream media and any other trusted American institutions.

The late Rush Limbaugh enshrined the battle lines in what has become a famous or infamous model -- monologue on what he called the Four Corners of Deceit.

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RUSH LIMBAUGH: So we have now the Four Corners of Deceit, and the two universes in which we live. The Universe of Lies, the Universe of Reality, and The Four Corners of Deceit: government, academia, science, and media. Those institutions are now corrupt and exist by virtue of deceit.

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HAYES: Government, academia, science, the media. Corrupt, exist by virtue of deceit.This is what Limbaugh and the conservative movement taught people, hammered into their heads after day after day, month after month, year after year, that they -- the Rush Limbaugh's of the world, the Fox News's of the world -- are the sole source of reality. They exist in the universe of reality and everyone else is in the universe of lies. And you can't trust anyone but them, the Rush Limbaugh's and the Fox News's. You can't trust the government, government official or government statistics. You can't trust scholars. You can't trust scientists or the mainstream media reporters.

And, of course, knowledge, what we know about the world is inescapably predicated on trust. We just can't verify firsthand the overwhelming majority of things we know about the world. I wasn't there for the randomized control trials for the vaccine, for instance, right? So, what we do is we use trust as a means of coming to know about the world. For example, if a reporter from the New York Times says, "I have seen this atrocity happening on the ground in Ukraine and I've talked to folks who saw it, firsthand witnesses, they told me about it," I can't go check for myself, right? My disposition is to trust that it's true. And not completely, right? I would look for other verifications, see if other outlets report similar findings as a kind of verification. We've seen that with atrocities and massacres that have happened in Ukraine.

But trust is the foundation here. And those trust relationships -- with credible media sources, researchers, again, government bureaucratic statistical entities -- they end up being the way that we form a lot of knowledge of the world.The American right has made it their mission to sever each of those trust relationships, to cut their base off from any other institution that produces knowledge.

Now, this has created this incredibly dangerous situation, in which conservatives are -- really are -- severed from any connection, again, to the main institutions of knowledge production in our society. Think about it, think of what the Four Corners of Deceit: government, academia, science and media. Because they are severed from those institutions, these tens of millions of folks can then be sort of captured, dominated entirely by Fox News and its conservative allies.This is an incredibly lucrative thing. They've got customers who only come to them. Rush Limbaugh -- who died a very, very, very, very wealthy man -- understood this.

But here's the thing. Disconnecting their audience from other possible sources of authority has also left Fox vulnerable. They're vulnerable to someone else who is even more of a grandiose liar, an even more effective demagogue coming along and winning over their audience's trust. And this is precisely what happened with the phenomenon of Donald Trump.

Now, remember, in the beginning, when he first got in the 2016 race, Fox and the Republican establishment wanted Trump out.

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GLENN BECK: I am really trying to understand how conservatives can look at Donald Trump's record, which he himself self-identifies more as a Democrat than as a conservative or a Republican, and say, "That's our guy."

RICH LOWRY: He's insulted and bullied his way to the top of the polls

KARL ROVE: We saw an angry, defiant, you know, fuming, threatening bully.

MEGYN KELLY: You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I don't think I've ever heard such a stream of disconnected ideas since I quit psychiatry 30 years ago.

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HAYES: Of course, that didn't work. The base decided they trusted Trump more than they trusted Fox. And again, here's -- this is what's key here, Fox themselves had produced a situation in which they were helpless to do anything, right? They created an audience that was completely unwilling to believe anyone else who would say, "Yes, he's a sexist and a crook and he's dangerous."

And we saw the same thing play out again after the 2020 election. Fox wanted to, in the main, institutionally, rely on their trust relationship with their audience and tell the viewers the basic truth that Joe Biden won the election. It wasn't rigged, and that what Donald Trump did was, as Rupert Murdoch actually wrote in an email, "Pretty much a crime." I agree, Rupert. So Fox tried that for a couple weeks after the election. But the viewers started to turn away because they no longer trusted Fox, they trusted Donald Trump who was telling them that the election was stolen.

Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott understood this. She laid it out plainly in another e-mail made public, again, thanks to the Dominion lawsuit: "We have damaged their trust and belief in us." Yes, it was basically a trust showdown. One that Fox couldn't win unless they adopted Trump's line, which they did.

Because here's the thing, they couldn't go to their base and tell them, "Hey, look, don't just listen to us. Look at every other independent assessment of the election. Look at the official numbers provided by government. Look at the courts, another part of the government. Look at the reporting in the media, in the New York Times and the Washington Post and the LA Times and NPR and on and on and on." They couldn't do any of that because they are the ones who told their audience not to believe any of those people, because those people were -- in Rush Limbaugh's words -- the Four Corners of Deceit. So Fox was left on its own, desperate to win back their audience. And so they decided to peddle Donald Trump's lies.

And this is still a very much live issue because, listen to me here, the exact same problem is happening now, again, in the 2024 Republican primary. When Donald Trump attacks his likely opponent, Ron DeSantis, claiming, for example, that "He is, for a Republican, an average Governor who got 1.2 million less votes in Florida than me," DeSantis can't really hit back. So in that example, right, Trump fails to mention that he won Florida by less than four points. DeSantis swept the state, with a margin of nearly 20 points. I mean, he only got fewer votes because it was a midterm, not a presidential.

But again, who is going to say that? Who is going to inject that context? Republican primary audience is so cut off from reality those facts can't get through. And where can Ron DeSantis turn to appeal to? Like a Washington Post fact-check? Not going to work. There's no referee. Fox News and the conservative movement destroyed the conditions for that.

So now, it's just a head-to-head battle of who you like more, who you believe, who you trust more. They trust Donald Trump. And until Rupert Murdoch and Suzanne Scott and the rest of the Republican party and the political operatives -- Ron DeSantis will be working on his campaign -- unless they figure out how to dismantle the situation they themselves built, Fox News and the rest of the right will always lose to Donald Trump or anyone else who can out-demagogue him.

Angelo Carusone is the President and CEO of Media Matters For America -- a watchdog group for right-wing media -- and he joins me now. How much, do you think -- we played that Ben Smith clip in the opening -- when it comes to the Dominion case itself, Fox has put it on the air for about a few seconds, maybe a few minutes. There's a very funny graphic of their website in which it's just like utterly buried and there's just 200 words and doesn't name the settlement figure. How much have they just kept their viewers away from this entire story?

ANGELO CARUSONE (MEDIA MATTERS PRESIDENT) Oh, entirely. They've just entirely kept them away. Even when they've mentioned it, they haven't mentioned the settlement to their audience, like the number, they just sort of say "settled." And when they talked about it, to your monologue, they actually talk about it in the context of "It's gonna sure disappoint the rest of the news media that was so excited for this trial to take place." That's how they framed it for their audience. They actually frame it within the context of the Four Corners of Deceit.

So, there's no acknowledgment -- even that little bit of acknowledgement they gave to the court that said, "Well, we acknowledge what the court said, that maybe some of the things we said were false," they don't even give that statement to their audience. So, they are keeping them pretty far away from it.

And the other parts of the right-wing media, because there is this sort of resorting, reshuffling that's happening right now. You know, they've been waiting for Fox to be on the ropes too because it meant bigger audience share and more power for them. Other parts of the right-wing media, like the Daily Wire and elsewhere, which is sort of the closest analogue to a Fox competitor, an emerging Fox competitor, they mention it, but barely.

They'll say, "Well, yeah, Fox kind of lied because they had to give something to their audience. They whiffed it here, but Fox is still pretty good. But it does show you that, maybe, you should think about some other places, perhaps like our show." So, they're even being very careful with how they sort of introduce this to the sort of larger Fox ecosystem.

HAYES: Well, you would think, right, you would think there's an opening here. I mean, I've seen Steve Bannon get up and say, "Read the transcripts. They think nothing of you." About Fox, right? And this is purely a self-interested thing for him to say. He's got his podcast while he awaits trial, which is cute. And he wants people to listen to that rather than listen to Fox. And he's trying to pry them away in exactly the way that Trump pried people away from Fox. It's all just these trust relationships, but no one can referee any of it. There's no one to appeal to outside of this universe

CARUSONE: No, and to your, you know -- one of the mechanics of how Trump was able to hijack the Fox audience is that he used those other outlets as a cudgel. You know, the first time One America News and others were used against Fox was not the election. You can go all the way back to 2016, when Trump was boycotting Fox News for two weeks and Sarah Palin suddenly had a show on One America News where Donald Trump was the featured guest. Or during COVID, where they had Chanel Rion from One America News come in and say all the things that Fox News wasn't saying for a couple weeks, until Fox News finally started to get in line on some of this, right? So, he used -- because there is a fusion of the right-wing media and the Republican political power. So, whoever sort of has the key within the right-wing media then gets to exercise that political power.

HAYES: And this is the thing that I think is important, and one of the takeaways from Dominion and from the primary, is they're chasing as much as they're leading. And they're more dangerous the more they're chasing. This is the thing that everyone has to understand, right? That like, the further they're chasing, the more they're driving down to the most lizard brainparts of their audience. They're just trying -- that is the most dangerous it gets, but that's always the project.

CARUSONE: Yes, what you just said is so very important because now, it's starting to transcend well beyond just misinformation and false ideas and false narratives. There's a bloodthirstiness within the right-wing media. Because, keep in mind, in 2022, it was the first time in a quarter century that Rush Limbaugh wasn't the single largest name in the get out the vote operation in the country. Fox News has been on its heels for the past year and a half because they're trying to figure things out. And the entire right-wing echo chamber's resorting.

There's a bloodthirstiness right now, and Fox News just got a license to lie. They are going to satisfy that bloodthirstiness, because they're back off their heels and they need to shore up that power, fast. Before somebody else comes in and hijacks it

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CHRIS HAYES (HOST): Jane, I thought of that piece you wrote because in the Dominion filings, what we see is that struggle for control laid bare. Right? Like the people inside Fox know that what Trump is saying are lies, possibly like lies that will expose them to litigation risk, right? Might endanger American democracy. But their audience likes Trump and wants to hear them and so they decide to go along. What do you think the state of that very fraught intense relationship is now?

JANE MAYER (GUEST): I mean, I think it's more tense than ever, but it's actually been tense, if you go back, almost from the start. I mean when you really think of it, it's interesting. Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump have known each other, by my calculation, for 46 or 47 years. And they've had a kind of a -- sort of -- mutually beneficial, dysfunctional relationship, almost from the start.

They were introduced by Roy Cohen, who's one the more iniquitous sort of fixers in the world of, you know, history of American politics, who'd worked for Joe McCarthy. And their original sort of deal that they struck up was, at the time, Murdoch-owned The New York Post and he wanted to sell newspapers, and Trump was a rising businessman who wanted to be a celebrity. And so if Trump could get publicity from Murdoch and Murdoch could sell papers by writing up the sort of antics of Donald Trump. And so one got fame, the other got money. One got influence, and the other, sort of you know, media empire. [and political pwr]

And it kept expanding. And it became -- it went from The New York Post to then to Fox. And at that point it started, it widened the audience. And kind of, the business plan, though, for both of them was to drive fear and anger in the working class, class resentment, racial resentment and benefit from it.

And, I think what you've seen, though, is that all the way through there's been some tensions. I mean, basically Murdoch, apparently, for years has wanted to have a president that he was close to. He's known every president since JFK, but he's never really had a close associate in the White House until Trump, someone he could call on the phone and he calls him "Donald" and they've known each other that long. And Trump got, out of Murdoch just an incredibly powerful, useful platform, given to him by the man who's arguably the most powerful media mogul in the world.

https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/msnbcs-chris-hayes-its-tom-fitton-who-ended-putting-donald-trump-arguably-most-acute-legal

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CHRIS HAYES (HOST): What is sort of remarkable, honestly, is that in most cases, Trump actually has kind of a fine-tuned antenna for just how close he can get to the line without crossing into outright easily provable crimes. That has saved him many times before. But this time, it appears that he stepped right over that line, the crystal clear line that his lawyers told him were there. And to understand why that finally happened, you have to look at who he's actually listening to. Because he was ignoring his highly qualified White House lawyers, Pat Philbin, Pat Cipollone, Eric Herschmann. Instead, he was reportedly taking the advice of this guy.

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So that's a guy named Tom Fitton. He's like a second, third tier conservative activist. Head of the right-wing group, Judicial Watch. They've been around for forever. A somewhat ludicrous figure honestly. I put him in the, like, Ginni Thomas category of the American right. Imagine a more senior James O'Keefe on steroids [literally].

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Now, I should note here, Tom Fitton is not a lawyer. He's just a dude with some big money right-wing donors, I guess. But he's been giving Donald Trump a lot of legal advice that the ex-president is actually listening to. Since as early as February, Fitton has reportedly been calling Trump, telling him it was a mistake to give the records from Mar-a-Lago to the National Archives, that his team should have never let the Archives quote, "strong-arm" him into returning them. Fitton said the records belonged to Trump, citing a 2012 court case involving his organization that he said gave the former president authority to do what he wanted with records from his own term in office. He suggested to Trump that if the Archives came back, he should not give up any additional records. Trump, quote, "began obsessing over Fitton's arguments, complaining to aides about the 15 boxes that were handed over" and "even asked Fitton at one point to brief his attorneys." I'm sure that they loved that one. As one person close to the ex-president put it, quote, "The moment Tom got in the boss' ear, it was downhill from there." You know, it's like the Overstock guy or the Pillow guy.

So Tom Fitton, professional right-wing scandal monger, appears to have facilitated the kind of black and white commission of an easily provable crime that Donald Trump on his own had so far managed to avoid.It's really an amazing feat, of all people, it's Tom Fitton who ended up putting Donald Trump in arguably the most acute legal peril he has ever been in. Well played.

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Tucker Carlson issues weird warning as he aims to protect Putin

Tucker Carlson's story about the NSA spying on him is filled with holes

Meaghan Ellis March 30, 2022

Fox News host Tucker Carlson recently issued a bizarre warning about the possible adverse effects of removing Russian President Vladimir Putin from office.

On Monday, March 28, Carlson expressed concern about the looming discussions during his recent segment of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."The conservative TV host claims he's concerned about the possibility of Islamic extremists seizing Russia's nuclear weaponry and using it on the United States if Putin is removed from power.

“So, Russia has a large and restive population of Islamic extremists. Do we think it’s possible that with no one running the country ― because of course we have no chosen successor to Putin ― is it possible, if we did that, that one of those 6,000 nuclear weapons might wind up in the hands of some anti-American terror group and be used against our civilian population here?” he asked. “A nuclear weapon! Well, it’s not just possible, it’s likely.”

Carlson's latest remarks follow multiple attempts he's made to defend the Russian authoritarian. Since the beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Carlson has echoed talking points from Russian state media circulating Kremlin propaganda. Like other Russian propagandists, Carlson has also made calls for the 25th Amendment to be invoked so President Joe Biden could be removed from office.

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During the same segment, Carlson said, "The joke is over. Too much is at stake. If there ever was a time — if there was in U.S. history ever a time to invoke the 25th Amendment, it is now. As Joe Biden himself put it, 'For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.' For all of our sakes."

Carlson’s bizarre remarks were reportedly in response to Biden's speech made while in Poland. Speaking of Putin, Biden called for Putin to be striped of his presidential powers saying, “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power.”

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https://www.alternet.org/2020/09/senator-demands-hhs-official-michael-caputo-be-fired-for-unhinged-sedition-tirade/

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Senator demands HHS official Michael Caputo be fired for unhinged ‘sedition’ tirade

Written by Jake Johnson / Common Dreams September 15, 2020

Sen. Patty Murray late Monday night demanded the immediate firing of Michael Caputo, the top communications official at the Health and Human Services Department, after the former Trump campaign aide over the weekend launched into an unhinged tirade accusing CDC scientists of “sedition” against the president and urging White House supporters to “buy ammunition” in preparation for a post-election conflict.

During a Facebook live session Sunday that has since been removed from the social media platform along with his entire personal account, Caputo baselessly claimed that “there are hit squads being trained all over this country” to prevent President Donald Trump reelection. Without a shred of evidence, Caputo also accused the CDC of forming a “resistance unit” to harm the president even at the cost of worsening the Covid-19 pandemic.

CDC scientists “haven’t gotten out of their sweatpants except for meetings at coffee shops” to decide “how they’re going to attack Donald Trump next,” Caputo said, according to the New York Times. “There are scientists who work for this government who do not want America to get well, not until after Joe Biden is president.”

“When Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,” said Caputo. “The drills that you’ve seen are nothing.” [refers to oregon guy shot in Wa]

Following Caputo’s rant, Murray—the top Democrat on the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee—called on HHS Secretary Alex Azar to fire the communications official, who has also reportedly been attempting to alter the CDC’s weekly coronavirus reports behind the scenes despite his complete lack of medical experience.

“As the leader of our nation’s health department during a pandemic that has claimed more than 190,000 American lives, Secretary Azar has a basic responsibility to ensure our public health experts are able to do their jobs, our Covid-19 response is not undermined by misinformation or conspiracy theories, and the data used to inform our efforts is free of political interference,” the Washington Democrat said in a statement late Monday.

“It is clear Secretary Azar cannot meet his basic responsibilities while allowing Michael A. Caputo, a yes-man for President Trump with no scientific expertise who publicly attacked CDC scientists and privately interfered with key CDC reports, to continue serving in such an influential role,” Murray continued. “If Secretary Azar believes his responsibility is to the American public and not to President Trump, he should demand Mr. Caputo’s resignation today.”

As Caputo’s rant drew national news coverage and condemnation from Democratic lawmakers and other critics, HHS issued a statement to CBS News backing Caputo, calling him “a critical, integral part of the president’s coronavirus response, leading on public messaging as Americans need public health information to defeat the Covid-19 pandemic.”

In a segment Monday evening, MSNBC‘s Chris Hayes called Caputo “a dangerous crank who is undermining science and raving about delusional conspiracy theories.”

“This guy isn’t just pushing this nonsense—this disgusting, paranoid, dangerous nonsense—from his government perch,” Hayes said. “He is in fact actively working to manipulate what the CDC tells the public about the pandemic in what is arguably the single most important public health publication in the world.”

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https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/msnbcs-chris-hayes-rages-at-tucker-carlsons-faux-populist-ire-and-bogus-claims-about-covid-19/

MSNBC host Chris Hayes lashed out Tuesday night at Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, slamming the right-wing pundit’s recent efforts to downplay the impact of the coronavirus.

Carlson argued that, despite a still-rising death rate approaching 60,000 in the United States, COVID-19 just isn’t really as deadly we were told. To buttress these dubious claims, Carlson cited the work of doctors whose views have been widely rejected by the medical and public health establishment.

In a clever rant in his Tuesday night show, Hayes flipped the script of Carlson’s usual populist shtick. Since the rise of Trump, Carlson has tried to present himself as a voice of the working class standing up to elitist liberals. But Hayes made the case that it’s Carlson’s current stance about the coronavirus that is appallingly elitist.

“Tucker Carlson, who has been broadcasting in safe isolation, is telling you it’s safe to go out,” Hayes said. “That’s his message to you, bus drivers. And you, people who work in meat-processing facilities. And you, who are providing elder care in a senior home or assisted living facility — or a cashier at a grocery store, or working in an Amazon warehouse. The cable news pundit wants you to get back out there because ‘it’s just not that deadly.'”

He continued: “But for all the faux-populist ire being mounted by the conservative politics legacy case from La Jolla, polling shows that most Americans continue to believe that shelter-in-place is the right policy. In fact, more than three in four Americans who have lost work, lost work or lost pay from the virus, still support stay-at-home measures.”

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https://www.alternet.org/2020/02/bolivia-coup-was-based-on-false-claims-of-election-fraud/

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Bolivia coup was based on false claims of election fraud

Written by Eoin Higgins / Common Dreams February 28, 2020

A new study released by a pair of MIT researchers Thursday reveals that, contrary to claims from the U.S.-backed Organization of American States, there was no fraud in Bolivia’s Oct. 20, 2019 elections — an accusation used by the OAS and others as a pretext for supporting the coup in the country that deposed President Evo Morales and replaced him with an unelected right-wing government.

“Good lord,” tweeted MSNBC journalist Chris Hayes. “Given the fact the entire Morales government was toppled over accusations of election fraud, the OAS has a lot to answer for.”

The Intercept’s Jon Schwarz took a similar approach to the findings and the OAS’ conclusions.

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In a surprising development, it appears that the same political forces and media that have lied about absolutely everything about Latin America for the past 100 years were lying againhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/26/bolivia-dismissed-its-october-elections-fraudulent-our-research-found-no-reason-suspect-fraud/ …

Analysis | Bolivia dismissed its October elections as fraudulent. Our research found no reason to...

Bolivians will hold a new election in May — without ousted President Evo Morales.

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MIT researchers John Curiel and Jack R. Williams reviewed the OAS report on the election for the Washington Post and found that the “election irregularities” cited by the group were based on “problematic” statistical claims. The OAS report rested its claim on the assumption that these so-called irregularities gave Morales a boost in numbers that raised his results over 10% higher than any other candidate, precluding a runoff election.

The researchers say they requested a response from the OAS about their findings, but received no reply.

Curiel and Williams’ study was commissioned by the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR). The group’s co-director, Mark Weisbrot, said in a statement that the OAS has a lot of explaining to do after facilitating the coup through faulty information.

“The OAS greatly misled the media and the public about what happened in Bolivia’s elections, and helped to foster a great deal of mistrust in the electoral process and the results,” said Weisbrot.

The orgnaization’s report bolstered the accusations of fraud in the Nov. 10 OAS report that precipitated the coup and the institution of hard-right legislator Jeanine Añez as president. The ensuing unrest and threats against he and his family, as Common Dreams reported at the time, forced Morales to flee the country for Mexico.

According to Curiel and Williams, the data used by OAS doesn’t line up with the organization’s conclusion:

Our results were straightforward. There does not seem to be a statistically significant difference in the margin before and after the halt of the preliminary vote. Instead, it is highly likely that Morales surpassed the 10-percentage-point margin in the first round. …

There is not any statistical evidence of fraud that we can find— the trends in the preliminary count, the lack of any big jump in support for Morales after the halt, and the size of Morales’ margin all appear legitimate. All in all, the OAS’ statistical analysis and conclusions would appear deeply flawed.

CEPR’s Weisbrot declared the researchers’ findings troubling and questioned the OAS’ credibility.

“This important analysis from MIT election researchers is the latest to show that the OAS’ statements were without basis, and that simple arithmetic shows that there is no evidence that fraud or irregularities affected the preliminary results, or the official results ? the ones that actually matter,” Weisbrot said. “The OAS needs to explain why it made these statements and why anyone should trust it when it comes to elections.”

“So much for that Bolivian election fraud,” tweeted the Intercept’s Ryan Grim.

The OAS is set to monitor new national elections in Bolivia set for May 3. Morales, still in exile, has effectively been barred from running.

Williams told Common Dreams that his and Curiel’s findings cast doubt on the organization’s impartiality and ability to act as a neutral arbiter.

“The OAS’s report has basic methodological and statistical errors that make it difficult to see the OAS as an impartial election observer,” said Williams. “The fact that they did not respond to researchers asking about their report on Bolivia seems to suggest they know this.”

National Nurses United director of communications Charles Idelson said on Twitter that the findings throw cold water on an attack line deployed by right-wing opponents of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2020 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, who have used his statement at Tuesday’s debate that the U.S. meddles in other countries against him.

“The fraudulent right wing military coup in Bolivia was carried out with Trump administration support,” said Idelson, “but some apparently still pretend the U.S. never overthrows governments of other countries.”

Curiel and Williams also point to the role in the media for uncritically regurgitating OAS claims on face value as the coup against Morales’ Movimiento al Socialismo (MAS-IPSP) party was underway.

“The media has largely reported the allegations of fraud as fact,” the researchers write. “And many commentators have justified the coup as a response to electoral fraud by MAS-IPSP.”

Utah-based progressive activist Tom Taylor called for accountability on the part of the media.

“Our news outlets took what known liars like John Bolton said about Morales at face value,” said Taylor. “Zero critical thinking. The journalists were old enough to remember when we were lied into the Iraq War.”

“There’s no other way to put it,” Taylor added. “Our media supported a coup.”

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https://www.amazon.com/Colony-Nation-Chris-Hayes/dp/0393254224

New York Times best-selling author and Emmy Award–winning news anchor Chris Hayes argues that there are really two Americas: a Colony and a Nation.

America likes to tell itself that it inhabits a postracial world, yet nearly every empirical measure―wealth, unemployment, incarceration, school segregation―reveals that racial inequality has barely improved since 1968, when Richard Nixon became our first “law and order” president. With the clarity and originality that distinguished his prescient bestseller, Twilight of the Elites, Chris Hayes upends our national conversation on policing and democracy in a book of wide-ranging historical, social, and political analysis.

Hayes contends our country has fractured in two: the Colony and the Nation. In the Nation, we venerate the law. In the Colony, we obsess over order, fear trumps civil rights, and aggressive policing resembles occupation. A Colony in a Nation explains how a country founded on justice now looks like something uncomfortably close to a police state. How and why did Americans build a system where conditions in Ferguson and West Baltimore mirror those that sparked the American Revolution?

A Colony in a Nation examines the surge in crime that began in the 1960s and peaked in the 1990s, and the unprecedented decline that followed. Drawing on close-hand reporting at flashpoints of racial conflict, as well as deeply personal experiences with policing, Hayes explores cultural touchstones, from the influential “broken windows” theory to the “squeegee men” of late-1980s Manhattan, to show how fear causes us to make dangerous and unfortunate choices, both in our society and at the personal level. With great empathy, he seeks to understand the challenges of policing communities haunted by the omnipresent threat of guns. Most important, he shows that a more democratic and sympathetic justice system already exists―in a place we least suspect.

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson has insisted that white supremacist violence is not a pressing issue in America. But such a declaration has not stoppedactual white supremacists in several instances of apparent domestic terror plots that have been thwarted by authorities in just the past two weeks.

On the August 6 edition of Tucker Carlson Tonight — broadcast just days after a suspected gunman killed 22 people at a Walmart in El Paso, TX, and after the gunman allegedly posted a white nationalist manifesto online — Carlson declared that it was a “lie” that white supremacy is even an urgent problem in America.

Since that statement, however, multiple suspects across the country have been arrested on charges related to plotting attacks motivated by white nationalism.

MSNBC host Chris Hayes did a very strong monologue on how white supremacist violence and the threat of it fits into American history, going back to the fallout from the Civil War. It's worth your time, especially considering, as Hayes mentions, that many Americans simply are not taught this history.

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Christopher Loffredo Hayes (/:{heɪz:(style="border-bottom:1px dotted"):}:/; born February 28, 1979)^[1][2] is a progressive American journalist, cable television news anchor and author.^[3] Hayes hosts All In with Chris Hayes, a weekday news and opinion television show on MSNBC. Hayes formerly hosted a weekend MSNBC show,Up with Chris Hayes. He is an editor-at-large of The Nation magazine.^[4]

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Hayes was born in Norwood, The Bronx, New York City,^[1] one of three sons of Roger and Geri Hayes. His mother is of Italian descent and his father is of Irish Catholicancestry.^[5] His father moved to New York from Chicago while studying at a Jesuit seminary, and began community organizing in the Bronx.^[6] Roger Hayes spent several years leading community organizing at the Community Service Society of New York and now works as an assistant commissioner for the NYC Department of Health. Hayes's mother was a school teacher and now works for the NYC Department of Education.^[6] Hayes was raised Catholic.^[7]

Hayes attended New York City's Hunter College High School,^[8] where his classmates included Immortal Technique^[9] and Lin-Manuel Miranda.^[10][11] He then attended Brown University, from which he graduated in 2001 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in philosophy. While at Brown, he worked with the student theater group Production Workshop.

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Beginning in August 2001,^[12] for four years Hayes was a contributor to the independent weekly newspaper Chicago Reader, where he covered local and national politics. In late 2003,^[13] he began a four-year stint at In These Times, a labor-focused monthly magazine based in Chicago, where he was a senior editor.

From 2005 to 2006, Hayes was a Schumann Center Writing Fellow at In These Times.^[14] From 2006 through 2007, Hayes was a Puffin Foundation Writing Fellow at The Nation Institute,^[15] and a contributing writer for The Nation. On November 1, 2007, The Nation named him its Washington, D.C. editor, succeeding David Corn.

Hayes wrote extensively on issues central to the liberal community, including what ails the Democratic Party in the post-9/11 era^[16] and how the labor movement is changing.^[17]He also reported on progressive activists' work to resuscitate the "public option" during the 2009–2010 health care fight when many political insiders wrote it off as dead.^[18]

Hayes was an adjunct professor of English at St. Augustine College in Chicago and a Bernard L. Schwartz fellow at New America Foundation from 2008 to 2010.^[14]

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Hayes guest-hosted The Rachel Maddow Show in July 2010 while Maddow was traveling in Afghanistan and later often filled in for Maddow when she was absent. Hayes has also hosted other MSNBC shows such as The Ed Show, Countdown With Keith Olbermann, and The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell.^[14]

On November 5, 2010, MSNBC announced that Hayes would be filling in for Keith Olbermann during Olbermann's suspension. However, the network later backtracked after finding out that Hayes had also made political contributions—the issue over which Olbermann was being suspended.^[19]

Hayes credits Maddow with his becoming a host at MSNBC, saying, "I absolutely would not be doing this if it weren't for her."^[4]

Up with Chris Hayes

On August 1, 2011, MSNBC announced that Hayes would host a two-hour morning show on Saturdays and Sundays, each going into depth on current issues.^[20] The first airing of Up with Chris Hayes was September 17, 2011,^[21] and featured a live interview with former speaker and current Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

On May 27, 2012, Memorial Day Weekend, Hayes made comments on air regarding the use of the word "heroism" as applied to American servicemen killed in action, stating, "I feel uncomfortable about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war. And I don't want to obviously desecrate or disrespect the memory of anyone that's fallen, and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism, you know, hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers, and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic. But maybe I'm wrong about that."^[22] His remark generated widespread controversy.^[23][24][25] Hayes initially defended his comment by urging people to listen to what he had actually said,^[26] Nonetheless, he apologized on his blog.^[27] Furthermore, on his June 2, 2012, show, he devoted a discussion to his comments and the disconnect between civilians and the military.^[28]

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On March 14, 2013, MSNBC announced that Hayes would take over the time slot formerly hosted by Ed Schultz, who would move to the weekends. At 34 years old, he became the youngest host of a prime-time show on any of the country's major cable news channels.^[29]

According to The New York Times, the change was made in the hopes that MSNBC can win a wider audience than it did with Schultz. Hayes was said to transition better to The Rachel Maddow Show because he is seen as just as policy-oriented as Maddow. "Chris has done an amazing job creating a franchise on weekend mornings," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. "He's an extraordinary talent and has made a strong connection with our audience."^[30]

All In with Chris Hayes, Hayes's first prime-time show, premiered Monday, April 1, 2013.^[31]

The show won an Emmy in 2015 and 2018.^[32][33]

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In May 2018, Hayes launched a weekly podcast called Why Is This Happening?, featuring interviews with political figures, journalists, writers, and academics.^[34][35] The podcast's first live episode was held on February 24, 2019, featuring an interview with Georgia politician Stacey Abrams.^[36][37]

Views

Press freedom

Hayes criticized the government's decision to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange under the Espionage Act of 1917 for his role in the 2010 publication of a trove of Iraq War documents and diplomatic cables leaked by Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning. Hayes tweeted: "The Espionage indictment of Assange for publishing is an extremely dangerous, frontal attack on the free press. Bad, bad, bad."^[38]

Books

Hayes's first book, Twilight of the Elites: America After Meritocracy was published by Crown Publishing Group in June 2012.^[39] A review in The Atlantic called it "provocative" and "thoughtful," but faulted its policy suggestions as less satisfying.^[40] Kirkus Reviews called it "forcefully written" and "provocative."^[41] Aaron Swartz described the book as "compellingly readable, impossibly erudite, and—most stunningly of all—correct."^[42]

Hayes' second book, A Colony in a Nation, was published by W. W. Norton in March 2017.^[43]

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Hayes participated in the 2017 Brooklyn Book Festival (BKBF).^[44]

In April 2017 he was a featured author at the L.A. Times Festival of Books, which took place at the campus of USC.^[45]

Personal life

On July 14, 2007, Hayes married his college sweetheart Kate Shaw, currently a professor of law at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law and a Supreme Court contributor for ABC News; they met while attending Brown together.^[46] His father-in-law is veteran Chicago reporter Andy Shaw.^[47] Hayes and Shaw resided in Washington, D.C., until they moved to New York City, where All in With Chris Hayes is produced.^[48] Their first daughter, Ryan Elizabeth Shaw-Hayes, was born in November 2011.^[49] Their son, David Emanuel Shaw-Hayes, was born in March 2014.^[50] Their second daughter, Anya Shaw-Hayes, was born in January 2018.^[51]

Hayes' brother Luke worked on Barack Obama's 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns.^[52]

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^ "MSNBC's Chris Hayes apologizes for saying he's 'uncomfortable' calling a fallen soldier 'hero:{':(style="padding-right:0.2em"):}:".
^ *Bridging the civilian-military divide*, MSNBC, June 3, 2012, archived from the original on January 4, 2013, retrieved June 3, 2012
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^ Staff, Variety (October 2, 2018). "PBS, CBS, HBO, CNN Garner Big Wins in 39th News and Documentary Emmy Awards". Variety. Retrieved October 10, 2018.
^ "Why IS this happening?". ART19. May 8, 2019. Retrieved July 8,2019.
^ "Why Is This Happening? With Chris Hayes Podcast". NBC News. Retrieved July 8, 2019.
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^ "LIVE: The Democratic Response with Stacey Abrams". ART19. February 26, 2019. Retrieved July 8, 2019.
^ ":{":(style="padding-left:0.2em"):}:This is about attacking journalism": Press freedom defenders on Assange espionage charges". Salon. May 24, 2019.
^ Nonfiction Review: Twilight of the Elites: America After Meritocracy by Christopher Hayes. Crown, $26 (304p) ISBN 978-0-307-72045-0
^ "The Cult of Smartness: How Meritocracy Is Failing America". The Atlantic. Retrieved November 24, 2015.
^ "TWILIGHT OF THE ELITES by Christopher L. Hayes – Kirkus Reviews".
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^ Morales, Chloe (June 16, 2017). "Brooklyn Book Festival's Author Lineup Revealed". Brooklyn Patch. Retrieved June 19, 2017.
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^ Mirkinson, Jack (August 1, 2011). "Chris Hayes MSNBC Weekend Show Announced". The Huffington Post.
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^ Chris Hayes [@chrislhayes] (March 27, 2014). "Introducing...David Emanuel Shaw-Hayes. 8lbs of pure sweetness, born to the best mom on the planet & an awestruck dad" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
^ Chris Hayes [@chrislhayes] (January 3, 2018). "Anya is here! Her amazing superhero momma basically bent iron with her sheer will to get her out. We're so in love with her" (Tweet) – via Twitter.
^ Hayes, Chris (November 10, 2012). "A toast to the organizers". MSNBC. Retrieved December 14, 2015.

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That’s the dual directive from a new report that calls on news organizations to use appropriate language when discussing the climate crisis—even as the report calls them out for inaction.

The report—titled “‘Call It a Crisis’: The Role of U.S. Network News in Communicating the Urency of Climate Change” (pdf)—analyzed the coverage of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News to determine just how much urgency the influential outlets bring to their reporting.

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According to David Arkush, managing director of Public Citizen’s Climate Program, the specific words that journalists and news anchors use—or choose not to use—matters.

“The words we use to characterize an issue make a difference in how it is perceived and prioritized politically,” said Arkush.

When outlets with massive nightly audiences like the ones the report studied “consistently fail to use language that conveys that climate change is a crisis or emergency,” Arkush added, “they unwittingly put a heavy thumb on the scale in favor of complacency and inaction.”

Fox News was the worst offender,with the use of “climate crisis” coming in for only five mentions during the coverage period—all of which, as Public Citizen noted, were efforts to “minimize the issue with false logic, mockery or misinformation.” But other news networks weren’t much better than the conservative channel.

The only network to use the term in double digits was CNN,and only 16 of the 26 mentions were by a host. Van Jones, whose eponymous show ran every other Sunday during the survey period, accounted for six of those mentions.

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NEW REPORT: In 2018, only 50 of 1,429 national TV news segments used the word “crisis” or “emergency" when discussing climate change. That's a measly 3.5 percent.

Here's how the networks stack up:

MSNBC: 7%

NBC: 6%

CNN: 3%

CBS: 3%

ABC: 2%

Fox: 2%

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Networks should name the problem clearly to avoid confusion, said Allison Fisher, outreach director for Public Citizen’s Energy Program.

“Climate coverage on broadcast and cable television news is still at best spotty and at worst riddled with misinformation,” Fisher said. “Calling it a crisis indicates that the stakes are high and that the issue is urgent. Most of all it signals to viewers that the time to act on climate is now.”

How to report on the climate crisis has long been an issue for news organizations. In July 2018, MSNBC host Chris Hayes said on Twitter that while he was personally invested in the story, the topic was “a palpable ratings killer.”

“So the incentives are not great,” said Hayes.

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almost without exception. every single time we've covered it's been a palpable ratings killer. so the incentives are not great.

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MSNBC host Christ Hayes unleashed on conservative columnist Matt Mackowiak Thursday evening on Twitter for defending some of President Donald Trump’s worst and most vile rhetoric.

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The back-and-forth began when Mackowiak tweeted a story from The Washington Free Beacon about presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke, who recently compared Trump’s rhetoric about immigrants at the U.S.-Mexico border to that of the Nazis.

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“He then went on to call asylum-seekers animals and an infestation,” explained O’Rourke. “Now we would not be surprised if in the Third Reich other human beings were described as an infestation, as a cockroach or a pest that you would want to kill.”

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“The reckless candidate continues his recklessness,” Mackowiak said of O’Rourke.

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“He noted that talking about immigrants as an ‘infestation’ and ‘animals’ is Nazi language, and in that he is 100% correct,” the MSNBC host tweeted. “The recklessness lies with the president using those vile, dehumanizing terms, not with the person pointing that out.”

Mackowiak responded: “What word would you use to describe 4,000 apprehensions every day?”

And that’s when Hayes became truly outraged.

“[OF] HUMAN BEINGS?!!! OF CHILDREN? I would never ever ever EVER under any circumstances refer to it as an ‘infestation,’ because that is a word that describes vermin,” Hayes wrote. Asked whether “invasion” was appropriate, he said: “They don’t have weapons, and are not militants of any kind so fo course invasion is definitely not appropriate. It is a humanitarian crisis, yes.”

He added: “Calling a group of people an “infestation,” comparing them to rats or vermin or cockroaches has been deployed as justification for genocide time and time again. This is just a plain historical fact.”

The exchange ended with this:

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Let's be clear. I don't call it an infestation or call them animals.

But by now we should all know that comparing anything to the Nazis is unwise.

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I know you don't and wouldn't! I think the comparison is often hyperbolic and maybe unwise, but this is a case, imho, where it's apt.

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Mackowiak’s last point here is particularly revealing and alarming. He is, it seems, more concerned and offended by the analogy Trump’s critic’s make of his administration to the Third Reich than he is of the analogy and metaphor the president makes comparing immigrants to animals and an infestation. In addition to Hayes’ astute points about the relative accuracy of each analogy, there’s a more fundamental point to be made: one of the comparisons is used to critique the powerful ruling party in the U.S. government, while the other is used to attack and demonize a vulnerable and frequently abused population. The fact that Mackowiak finds one of these analogies “unwise” while offering little condemnation of the other is particularly telling.

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In a welcome change, MSNBC had a town hall directly related to climate change. Chris Hayes talked with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) about the Green New Deal, and debunked a lot of right-wing smears. Fox News has already had a meltdown about it. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez made the sensible point that America had a massive response to thousands of Americans dying on September 11, 2001, but has not had much of a response at all to thousands of Americans dying in Puerto Rico as a result of climate-linked Hurricane Maria. Fox & Friends was furious at the comparison, with a guest even calling her "shrill" and then declaring that man-made climate change is a hoax. This entire episode matters: Fox News is driving conversation around the Green New Deal because other news outlets generally are sitting out the discussion. So it's important to call this out and have a real, serious discussion about climate change.