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The New Voice of Ukraine
Russian oligarchs' sons linked to American defense fund tied to ... - NV
The sons of two prominent Russian businessmen, Vadim Moshkovich and Petr Aven, are working at the American venture fund 8VC, which invests in companies that fulfill contracts for the U.S. Department of Defense and NATO, Forbes reported on Aug. 20.
The sons of two prominent Russian businessmen, Vadim Moshkovich and Petr Aven, are working at the American venture fund 8VC, which invests in companies that fulfill contracts for the U.S. Department of Defense and NATO, Forbes reported on Aug. 20.
8VC hired Jack Moshkovich as an analyst in 2018 after he graduated from Stanford University. His father, the founder of the agricultural conglomerate Rusagro, was sanctioned by the West shortly after Russian dictator Vladimir Putin launched the invasion of Ukraine.
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In the summer of 2024, Jack Moshkovich obtained permanent residency in the United States. Denis Aven, the son of the co-founder of Alfa Group and the UK-based LetterOne, joined the fund in 2022, even though his father was already sanctioned by the EU and UK. The United States placed Petr Aven on its blacklist in 2023. Denis Aven is a Yale University graduate with an MBA from Harvard.
Joe Lonsdale, managing partner and co-founder of 8VC, explained that Denis Aven was hired after another private equity fund, fearing sanctions, refused him a position.
Lonsdale responded to Forbes’ inquiry with a lengthy post on X, where he praised Moshkovich as a "superstar" and Aven as a "top talent". He emphasized that 8VC strictly adheres to legal and regulatory norms but firmly stated, "I’m lucky to live in the greatest country in the world, and it will remain as such if we can keep working with the top talent of all backgrounds, including, yes, Chinese and Russians and Israelis et al, without demonizing people for imagined things they didn’t do." Lonsdale added, "We haven’t taken any money from their fathers or their fathers’ friends, and don’t need it."
8VC invests in a wide range of sectors, including defense-related companies. Among its investments are technology companies Palantir, co-founded by Lonsdale, and Anduril, both of which have billion-dollar contracts with the Pentagon. The fund has also backed billion-dollar startups like Saronic and Epirus, which specialize in unmanned maritime vehicles and anti-drone systems, respectively. Additionally, 8VC, along with the NATO Innovation Fund, has invested in the UK-based advanced composite materials manufacturer iCOMAT.
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Top 10 Russian tycoons see wealth surge amid global sanctions
By the end of 2024, the Ukrainian state budget is expected to receive 10 billion hryvnias ($241.7 million) from the sale of assets belonging to sanctioned individuals, including Russian oligarchs and collaborators.
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MAY 30 TRAVIS GETTY RAW Data firm is building 'detailed portraits of Americans' on Trump's order: report
The data analytics firm Palantir is building a master list of personal information on Americans that could give president Donald Trump immense surveillance power.
The president signed an executive order in March calling for the federal government to share data across various agencies, and while he hasn't publicly spoken about the effort since, officials have been putting the plan into place with the help of the publicly traded tech firm Palantir, which the government has paid at least $113 million since Trump took office, reported the *New York Times*.
"The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including [the Department of Homeland Security] and the Health and Human Services Department," the newspaper reported. "Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said. Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream."
ALSO READ: 'I'm shocked': Chris Christie's telling Trump moment among revelations in new Russia files
"The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status," the report added.
The company has received also new contracts from the Pentagon and is speaking to the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service about buying its technology, according to six government officials and knowledgable Palantir employees, and Democratic lawmakers have warned that Trump could use the personal information to target immigrants and punish his critics.
"Palantir’s selection as a chief vendor for the project was driven by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, according to the government officials," the Times reported. "At least three DOGE members formerly worked at Palantir, while two others had worked at companies funded by Peter Thiel, an investor and a founder of Palantir."
"Some current and former Palantir employees have been unnerved by the work," the report added.
"The company risks becoming the face of Mr. Trump’s political agenda, four employees said, and could be vulnerable if data on Americans is breached or hacked. Several tried to distance the company from the efforts, saying any decisions about a merged database of personal information rest with Mr. Trump and not the firm."
Privacy advocates, student unions and labor rights organizations have challenged the company's data access in court, and 13 former employees signed a letter this month urging Palantir to end its work for Trump, saying that combining that private data poses a significant risk of misuse – and current employees expressed the same concerns to the Times.
"The goal of uniting data on Americans has been quietly discussed by Palantir engineers, employees said, adding that they were worried about collecting so much sensitive information in one place," the Times reported. "The company’s security practices are only as good as the people using them, they said. They characterized some DOGE employees as sloppy on security, such as not following protocols in how personal devices were used."
Linda Xia, a former Palantir engineer who signed the critical letter, said current employees are "raising questions internally" about their work for the Trump administration, while others have already left in protest, such as Brianna Katherine Martin, a former strategist who posted that she left over the data firm's work with ICE.
“For most of my time here, I found the way that Palantir grappled with the weight of our capabilities to be refreshing, transparent and conscionable,” Martin wrote. “This has changed for me over the past few months. For me, this is a red line I won’t redraw.”
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The Tech Journalist Banned from Twitter for Criticizing Fascism, Palantir, and the Broligarchy }:
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=2686450&post...}:
Palantir, Trump's techno-fascist surveillance company, just published a 22-part manifesto outlining its authoritarian agenda. The masks are off. It's time to purge America of these broligarchs.
:{:{Tech journalist Gil Duran}:
https://substack.com/redirect/518bbc39-f311-46d1-848d-7c8e295523ef?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)) is a longtime friend of The Left Hook who has spent years chronicling the fascist ideology of Silicon Valley broligarchs who have captured the White House and are now spending hundreds of millions to buy our elections.}:
His Twitter account was suspended on Monday.
Did he post Nazi conspiracy theories? Do a Sieg Heil? Mainstream dangerous anti-vaxx nonsense? Take money from Russia and and promote anti-American talking points?
Nope. All of that is kosher and normalized by Elon Musk and MAGA.
He did something far more controversial and extreme. He dared call out fascism. That’s it. That’s all he did.
It seems the free speech, anti-culture crowd is perfectly fine cancelling speech that it finds offensive and threatening. Free speech for me, none for thee. Safe spaces for me, none for thee. Civility for me, and cruelty for thee.
As if you needed any proof, Palantir, the mass surveillance company co-founded by Peter Thiel, took off whatever remained of its mask and proudly posted a 22-point manifesto that could easily belong in Nazi Germany.
https://substack.com/redirect/2819aab1-d258-4b76-8992-2bfba67c511e?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)}:
They advocate for a “hard power,” believe Silicon Valley should play a bigger role in “addressing crime,” laments a culture that promotes pluralism and inclusivity, celebrates certain civilizations (“Western”) as more advanced than “regressive” ones, and states national service should be a universal duty.
Basically, they want to turn the United States into apartheid Israel, a country that Palantir has proudly supported and helped during its ongoing occupation and genocide.
(https://substack.com/redirect/debb1dcd-0b6a-4ffd-916c-243d92641bd0?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)
Palantir’s psychotic CEO, Alex Karp, a former progressive, has openly bragged that AI technology disproportionately harms “humanities-trained—largely Democratic—voters, and makes their economic power less. And increases the economic power of vocationally trained, working-class, often male, working-class voters.” }:
https://substack.com/redirect/ca8eb532-da4a-4fe0-9faa-50529aefe003?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)}:
https://substack.com/redirect/fd87301a-b73e-4008-9773-102ae3e39a41?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)}:
:{:{Palantir was co-founded by white nationalist billionaire and Epstein ally Peter Thiel, who in 2009, said, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”}:
https://substack.com/redirect/525e0ead-4efa-4b3e-9996-25029826c531?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)
He’s part of the South African Pay Pal mafia (https://substack.com/redirect/efad732e-749d-4f46-91ba-0f9e8ee187c8?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM) which includes Elon Musk and David Sacks, who is Trump’s Czar of AI and Crypto. Thiel also groomed the political career of JD Vance and hand delivered him to the White House.}:
:{:{These aspiring masters of the universe are unraveling publicly in real time as the masses grow wiser to their techno-fascist machinations. Instead of dialing back their dystopian sci-fi porn, they’re doubling down and using the Trump Administration to realize their apocalyptic end game. They’re also pouring hundreds of millions to purchase the upcoming 2026 and 2028 elections, buying up both Democratic and Republican elections.}:
https://substack.com/redirect/b068592e-7d8e-4dcf-8f8a-55318a8568e6?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM)}:
It’s time to wake up, purge Palantir (https://substack.com/redirect/6c1e5bf2-b244-4ebe-92f4-3fcfa4c47ddb?j=eyJ1IjoiMW42ZTYifQ.vyvZ_z0oLghKX6Zag1WJ71bIfqAlxqUD_SD6A_ZPsUM), and call out all elected officials who continue taking AI and Crypto money....
THE LEFT HOOK with Wajahat Ali https://substack.com/@thelefthook) and Gil Duran (https://substack.com/@gilduran)
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think this piece around there just fundamental lack of regard for some of the basic um principles and boundaries
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um that others have typically abided by or have pretended to abide by and there's just such a long track record with this company their involvement with
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the predictive policing in Los Angeles right which literally targeted communities of color with this idea that you could draw profiles of people who
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were more likely to be suspects and you could just spy on those people all the time and then their involvement with HB be Gary Federal where they were literally like plotting to help cook up
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dirt, right? Instance after instance of these situations where Palunteer just happens to be in the middle, you know,
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some of the scandals that Edward Cenodin helped expose. Why is Palanteer happen to be a contractor in all of these situations and you know, do they not have boundaries? And I think what makes...
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when we first started to do research around this and launched the no tech for ICE campaign in 2018 we were like oh No,
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this is profitering, right? Like we've been talking about private detention centers profitering over the the detention and deportation pipeline, but
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actually it's tech companies. It's deeper than that and more nefarious than that in the sense that they are both naming the policies and then benefiting
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from them um in a way that is also controlling the infrastructure itself.
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So we're not in a position where it's not only that they're benefiting economically, they actually control the system, right? And so is it a private government? Is it a corporation taking
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control of a government? I there's a lot of nuance there that that we can unpack.
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But, you know, you start to see it, for example, with the big bad bill, right?
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The budget that was passed, all of these billions of dollars in the name of defending the homeland, defending security, immigration enforcement, and
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really what they're doing is using it as a blank check to build up the surveillance system that they want to have to have political control. And I think that is the the the place where
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we're seeing this. I think it's really important to also be pushing back. They they have all of these ideas of defending liberty. What we're really debating is the role of government. They
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are on one hand saying we need billions of dollars of our taxpayer money to go to war, genocide, a war on immigrants
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here in at home. While you know anything related to healthcare, anything related to education, anything related to the environment is completely gutted. So
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it's not that they believe in small government. They actually want to have a very large government that is just focused on anything that has to do with
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militarization. That is their their model in terms of business and that is also their model in terms of political control.
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Definitely they always want small government when it comes to things that are good for people. They have no problem with wasting billions of dollars
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killing children in Iran, right? There's always money for more bombs, never money for children, for families, etc. And
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this is a long running problem in the country with between the Republicans and the Democrats especially. And the Democrats often buy into this idea that
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we should shrink the social safety net in order to get towards some mythical center that doesn't really exist. And I think that search for the center has led
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I agree 100%. I'm on I'm on board with with JP's vision of of where we're going. Um, you know, I I think that the
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thing that I would add is like, you know, sometimes when companies particularly, but politicians too, like when you get a good villain like this,
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right, it's both they are doing things that are really horrible for humanity,
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but they are also sort of like a sign, a symptom of what is really going on underneath, right? And so I think part of the task that we have at hand is
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Palanteer is awful, but they're also awful because of what they represent,
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right? If you take out Palunteer and replace them with another company, it's going to be a very similar issue because really this is all part of the broader fight against authoritarianism. What we
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just have to kind of grapple with is it's not only that we're facing authoritarian figures like Trump, we're also confronting authoritarian figures
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like Teal. But one of the things that gives me actually a lot of hope is is watching how they've had to kind of
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shift to sort of be relevant in the moment. Right? When we first launched the campaign, the No Techch for ICE campaign, Palanteer would actually say
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like, "We do not work with the enforcement and removal operations. We only work with Homeland Security investigations." Right? These are two arms of ICE. Folks who have been in the
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movement know for a long time they've always both done horrible things and and deportations, but this felt like a line in the sand that they could say like,
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"We're not doing that, but we're doing this." Now, they're very openly saying,
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"No, any immigrant, anyone, we're going to defend whatever the the vision is of of the white supremacists in the White House, and that's going to be the the
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political line that we're going to take." And so, you start to realize like, oh, they are vulnerable. For a long time, Palunteer has actually wanted
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to have this business model where Teal will take folks on the right and Karp would take folks right in the Democratic center. Um, now that is sort of broken
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in some ways. And so I think they've sort of revealed themselves. And for me,
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um the way we think about safety and who belongs. So all of these things to me are are brought together. So to me it's both what can we do against Palunteer
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rights we actually have to take them headon and make sure that they're not a defining force of where we're going and it seems like there has been a great unmasking during these Trump times where they feel more comfortable or at least they've been forced into defining their...
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purgepalantir.com
Tech giant Palantir is building tools for mass surveillance.
Tech giant Palantir is building tools for mass surveillance. It is an unaccountable behemoth vacuuming up our data to use in everything from denial management for health insurance companies to unjust deportations to lethal and extrajudicial drone strikes.
thenerdreich.com
https://www.thenerdreich.com › how-to-purge-palantir
Purge Palantir: The Campaign Against Peter Thiel's Spy Firm
TodayA national campaign is taking on Peter Thiel's surveillance giant — and Palantir just handed them a fascist manifesto to campaign against.
American Friends Service Committee
https://afsc.org › purge-palantir
Purge Palantir | American Friends Service Committee
U.S. tech giant Palantir openly supports Israel's genocide on Gaza. In the United States, the company helps immigration authorities target people for deportation and police departments to surveil our communities. Palantir does this primarily through its specialized artificial intelligence (AI) tools and by centralizing data—including everyday people's personal information—in one place.
Mother Jones
https://www.motherjones.com › politics › 2026 › 01 › purge-palantir-donation-tracker-ice-congress
Who Takes Palantir's Money? A New Tracker Finds Out.
Palantir Payroll, the product of an effort by the campaign Purge Palantir, compiles data from FEC filings to account for the two-way cash flow: from the government to Palantir via contracts, and ...
Democracy Now!
https://www.democracynow.org › 2025 › 7 › 15 › doge_20
"Purge Palantir": Day of Action Protests Firm's Role in Gov't ...
Jul 15, 2025Protesters across the United States targeted Palantir Monday in a day of action focused on the technology company's work with ICE, facilitating President Trump's expanding immigration ...
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › technology › 2026 › mar › 26 › new-york-hospitals-palantir-ai
New York City hospitals drop Palantir as controversial AI firm expands ...
Mar 26, 2026Nurses, pro-Palestinian activists and social and climate justice groups applied pressure on the city government as part of a nationwide campaign known as Purge Palantir to stop the company from ...
Electronic Frontier Foundation
Palantir Has a Human Rights Policy. Its ICE Work Tells a Different ...
1 day agoFor years, EFF has pushed technology companies to make real human rights commitments—and to live up to them. In response to growing evidence that Palantir's tools help power abusive immigration enforcement by ICE, we sent the company a detailed letter asking how the promises in its own human rights...
National Nurses United
Union nurses to protest Palantir and HCA collaboration at Frist Gala
Apr 13, 2026HCA hospitals have refused to provide further information to NNU nurses on the extent of the hospital giant's cooperation with Palantir, including how patients' and health care workers' data are being protected. That lack of transparency only underscores the importance of demanding HCA purge Palantir from its technology.
Aljazeera
Technofacism? Why Palantir's pro-West 'manifesto' has critics alarmed
TodayPalantir's 'manifesto' has been described as an 'AI-driven threat to humanity's existence' and 'technofascism'.
American Friends Service Committee
https://afsc.org › palantir-explainer
What is Palantir? And why is this corporation so dangerous?
Feb 11, 2026You can join us by finding or organizing a local group to pressure our universities, hospitals, and other institutions to cut all ties to Palantir. Visit our Purge Palantir campaign page to: Contact the leadership of hospitals, universities, and other corporations using Palantir to urge them to
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- Malcolm Ferguson @ The New Republic: Palantir CEO Makes Shocking Confession on Disrupting Democratic Power
They’re saying the quiet part out loud now.
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Palantir CEO Alex Karp thinks his AI technology will lessen the power of “highly educated, often female voters, who vote mostly Democrat” while increasing the power of working-class men.
“This technology disrupts humanities-trained—largely Democratic—voters, and makes their economic power less. And increases the economic power of vocationally trained, working-class, often male, working-class voters,” Karp said in a CNBC interview Thursday. “And so these disruptions are gonna disrupt every aspect of our society. And to make this work, we have to come to an agreement of what it is we’re going to do with the technology; how are we gonna explain to people who are likely gonna have less good, and less interesting jobs.”
This sounds like a direct, long-term pitch to the GOP from a CEO whose tech firm already has numerous government contracts and is deeply embedded in the Pentagon. Karp’s message is loud and clear: My technology will take political capital away from one of your greatest enemies—liberal women with degrees—and give one of your favorite demographics to patronize—working-class men—more political power to transfer to you. He’s aligning his technology with both GOP political strategy and the larger male-centered culture war that the right has been waging for the better part of a decade now. And how exactly would his technology only hurt Democrat women?
Karp also made a Patriot Act–era argument, justifying his admittedly “dangerous” technology by claiming that Palantir will allow us to “be American” in the future.
“These technologies are dangerous societally,” Karp continued. “The only justification you could possibly have would be that if we don’t do it, our adversaries will do it. And we will be subject to their rule of law.… Why is it that we’re absorbing the risk of disrupting the very fabric of our society, including the most powerful parts of our society, if it’s not because it’s about maintaining our ability to be American in the near term and long term?”
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wielded by an evil wizard in the Lord of the Rings. The company even called its Apollo alto office the Shire. Its
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co-founder Peter Thiel was recently in Rome obsessed with a different mythology lecturing Catholics about the machinery
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of the Antichrist as he called it tools that will create a global authoritarian government. In response, an adviser to
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the Pope himself publicly accused Teal of building the very machinery he claims to warn against. It's really weird and
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also really scary because here's the truth. Palunteer is now embedded in the Army, the NSA, the FBI, ICE, Border
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Patrol, the Pentagon, and Britain's National Health Service. Members of Congress and Trump officials are buying Palunteer stock while handing it
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billions in contracts. Just like the fabled allseeing eye, it's working with the White House to merge every federal database to see everything about you.
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Your health records, your financial transactions, your location data,
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everything into one system. In this episode of the Nerdite podcast, I speak with two organizers from the Purge Palunteer campaign. It's a drive to
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well Trump married to immigrants I mean you know so that there is there is contradiction there of course but
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without the technology that these people are supporting Trump with and providing and getting military contracts and
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government contracts with Trump wouldn't be able to send bounty hunters out with
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software on their phones with their kind of Amazon military costumes and round people up
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yeah there's a role for the the tech industry Um, one of the interesting things that I'd been looking into was um
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there was a project at the Claremont Institute, which is a Trump Allied think tank called the administrative state project. And that the um one of the
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thinkers are on that project uh was co-writing opeds with the CTO of Palunteer. So it was all about thinking
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around it was there there has been a lot of strategy and thinking um around how
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the immigration how technology and tech advanced tech companies like Palunteer
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A new report in *The Atlantic* shows that despite President Donald Trump's campaign having ended a year ago, he has not stopped fundraising — and is now sitting on a $2 billion windfall.
"I want you to keep going," Trump told his top fundraiser Meredith O'Rourke the morning after he won his second term, The Atlantic reports.
Trump's second inaugural committee raised $241 million, "about $90 million more than organizers needed to fund the events — and nearly four times as much as Joe Biden had raised for his own inauguration, in 2021. But that was just the beginning," write Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker.
Trump, they write, wanted money for "political operations that many politicians support," but he also wanted it for "technically apolitical causes."
Among those causes, they write, include those that "offered corporations and wealthy individuals a chance to make tax-deductible contributions, including a dramatic White House renovation, the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts (now under his control), his presidential library and a celebratory Army parade on his birthday."
"By August, Trump estimated that he had collected at least $1.5 billion since the election, more than all the money raised to support his 2024 campaign over two years, including funds raised by supportive independent super PACs," they report.
That amount is now near $2 billion, according to two people who spoke with the authors anonymously.
"Trump has kept careful track of the money coming in, regularly calling O’Rourke late at night for updates," according to the report. "He monitors who is giving, who is not, and the role of lobbyists who bundle donations, those familiar with his efforts told us."
"At times, the actual donation amount is less important to the president than the percentage of the donor’s overall assets. He thanks the most generous benefactors at swanky events at the White House and his clubs," they add.
"Trump and his aides cast donations to his political groups or priorities as acts of patriotism," they write.
Much of this windfall comes from companies or people who have business with the government, they report, including defense contractors, crypto investors and tech companies.
"A select group of companies and executives — Amazon, Lockheed Martin, Coinbase, Palantir CEO Alex Karp — are top donors to multiple Trump projects," they note.
None of this, they say, is normal, and "nothing on this scale was ever attempted by a sitting president prior to Trump."
"And he’s just getting started. He hasn’t stopped,” a third anonymous source tells them, “and I don’t anticipate that we will stop.”
Trump's "relentless fundraising" has alarmed ethics watchdogs, they write, despite Trump advisors saying his donations are merely from those who "support his political agenda."
Media and technology companies that Trump has sued, they report, "have collectively made $85 million in payments to some of his pet projects in order to settle the lawsuits," including Paramount and the parent company of YouTube.
“There are people being asked to do 10-to-25-million-dollar checks for the ballroom, for the inauguration, for the presidential library,” another person familiar with the requests tells The Atlantic. “That spigot is never going to close, ever. This is just the cost of doing business. They will write a multimillion-dollar check to avoid the $2 billion lawsuit. It’s a business decision.”
Trump continues to raise money for his library, and for the midterm elections in 2026, they say, but he is also collecting "funds for a dark-money group, Securing American Greatness," they write.
Trevor Potter, a former Republican chair of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) who now runs the Campaign Legal Center, tells The Atlantic in a statement, "While it is not unusual for lame duck presidents to fundraise for their Libraries, what we are seeing from President Trump in his first year of office is shockingly unprecedented."
“The president’s seemingly insatiable drive for money from corporations and billionaires seeking government favors (or merely hoping to procure protection from Trump attacks on their business interests) sends a clear signal to everyday Americans that their needs come far behind those of the ultrawealthy who are buying access and favor," Potter adds.
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WHY NOW? GUBMINT?
“We’re headed to a surveillance state”: Right-wing figures and podcasters are protesting the Trump administration’s relationship with Palantir
Palantir is coming under greater scrutiny even from Trump’s allies
Written by Noah Dowe & Ben Van Bloem
Published 11/10/25 MMA
The Trump administration’s deepening ties to data analysis firm Palantir has caused a surge in discontent in the conservative media sphere. Figures ranging from right-leaning podcasters like Theo Von and Tim Dillon to MAGA allies such as Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson have warned Palantir’s “spy network” is a step toward a “police state.” Other figures on the far right, including white nationalist commentators Nick Fuentes and Stew Peters, have also railed against the tech company’s CEO and its ties to billionaire Trump-backer Peter Thiel.
The Trump administration is contracting Palantir to work with ICE
- Palantir makes software that searches through and organizes large datasets — and as a U.S. government contractor, that could include sensitive information about every American. Wired notes, “The software firm's work with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the US Department of Defense, and the Israeli military has sparked numerous protests in multiple countries.” Wired, [8/11/25; Inc., 11/3/25]
- In May, Palantir made a $30 million deal with ICE to provide the agency with “near real-time visibility” into how migrants move in the United States.This comes at the same time that ICE is adopting more technology for surveillance, including facial recognition, to create biometric databases on populations of immigrants and people who interact with law enforcement. NPR, [5/5/25, Brookings Institution, 10/6/25]
- Trump chose Palantir to help “share data across agencies,” creating the possibility of a “master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.”The apparent goal of the administration is to have Palantir compile a merged database that would include — but not be limited to — a person’s student debt, wages, bank account number, biometric data, and disability status. That information is currently siloed in different agencies, and experts warn that a merged database could be used by government actors to target political enemies, dissidents, and marginalized communities. The New York Times, [5/30/25, 4/9/25, The Guardian, 6/30/25]
- Palantir was co-founded by Peter Thiel, a longtime ally of President Donald Trump who supported his 2016 campaign and is also closely tied to Vice President JD Vance.Thiel hired Vance to his investment firm in 2017 and donated $15 million to a super PAC supporting the future vice president’s 2022 Ohio Senate campaign. CBS News, [7/16/24; Mother Jones, 7/23/25]
- The company and its CEO have also donated to the Trump inauguration fund and the construction fund for the ballroom replacing the East Wing of the White House.CEO Alex Karp donated $1 million to the inauguration, and Palantir is on a list of companies contributing to the estimated $300 million construction budget of the ballroom. Brennan Center, [7/1/25; Axios, 10/23/25]
- ## Right-wing figures and right-leaning podcasters have been critical of the Trump administration for working with Palantir, saying the collaboration “should scare everybody”
- Joe Rogan said that Palantir gathering “personal data of each American” is “kind of creepy.” YouTube, *The Joe Rogan Experience*, [9/9/25]
- War Roomhost Steve Bannon called Palantir “really the villain in the AI” space and expressed doubt that the company had actually “become MAGA, because then you see what they want to do.”Bannon later said convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell’s case raises “big questions about Palantir and some of these other companies today about the surveillance technology — exactly who’s financing it, who owns it, who controls it, all of it.” Real America’s Voice, *War Room,* [6/30/25, 8/23/25]
- Podcaster Shawn Ryan told a guest on his show that people were worried that Palantir is “spying on us.”Guest Trae Stephens, a venture capitalist deeply involved in Palantir and other Thiel-related projects, defended the company and said that the “misconceptions around Palantir are crazy,” claiming that “a lot of the hysteria, like philosophically, is really troubling.” YouTube, *The Shawn Ryan Show*, [10/16/25]
- Infowarshost Harrison Smith said the administration’s work with Palantir was “probably the worst news I've heard all year, to be honest with you,” and described the company as “the backbone infrastructure of the Mark of the Beast.” InfoWars, *The American Journal*, [6/2/25]
- PBD Podcastresearcher Brandon Aceto said that Palantir is “a straight-up CIA contractor that harvests our data. It’s probably the biggest data center in the world, so that’s scary for a whole bunch of reasons.” YouTube, *PBD Podcast*, [6/3/25]
- PBD Podcastpanelist Vincent Oshana said Karp and his company “want to control everything.”Host Patrick Bet-David called Palantir’s history “very, very spooky.” YouTube, *PBD Podcast,*[6/10/25, 6/10/25]
- Timcast IRLpanelist Ian Crossland decried “the rise of Palantir and the spy network that’s being built,” claiming, “There’s going to be, like, spy tech everywhere.”Rumble, *Timcast IRL,*[9/13/25]
- Far-right figure Enrique Tarrio said he is “completely against” Palantir contracting for the government, calling it “the more advanced version of the Patriot Act.”According to Tarrio, “The Palantir thing I don't know enough about but I do think that just by what I'm seeing, it is something I am completely against because it's true. It's a second — it's the more advanced version of the Patriot Act.” Rumble, *Lords of War*, [6/4/25; Media Matters, 4/30/25]
- Tucker Carlson said “the technology, not just Palantir but all the emerging technology … it could be used to enslave the population really easily.” Carlson declared, “Every person should be concerned about the centralization of power and the use of technology to strip basic rights from citizens.” YouTube, *The Tucker Carlson Show,*[7/25/25]
- Right-wing political strategist Roger Stone criticized Palantir and claimed he told Vice President JD Vance that he does not “want Big Brother knowing everything about me.” Stone said, “I told him I did not like the idea of the federal government having a database on every American. I don't like Real ID. I don't like these stated plans of Palantir. I don't want Big Brother knowing everything about me, including my spending habits and everything about me, because I think it leads to a social credit score like they have in China.” BBC, [12/23/20, WABC, The Stone Zone, 10/2/25]
- Conservative commentators The Hodgetwins asked, “Why are Republicans giving Palantir all this power? Turning us into a damn police state.” Twitter/X, [6/4/25]
- Comedian and podcaster Tim Dillon has repeatedly questioned the administration’s relationship with Palantir, saying it “should scare everybody.”Dillon claimed, “If you don't have any reservations about Palantir taking everyone's information, I don't know. I can't — I don't know if I could trust you.” Dillon has also accused Palantir of “exporting technology all over the world for the purposes of death,” adding, “They are building this with Trump, with taxpayer money.” YouTube, *The Tim Dillon Show,* [6/7/25, 8/2/25, 8/16/25, 9/27/25]
- ## Some podcasters expressed specific distrust for Thiel and Karp
- Podcaster Theo Von said Palantir’s deal with the administration is “fucked” during an interview with Vice President JD Vance, called Peter Thiel a “dark lord,” and warned that “we’re headed to a surveillance state in America.”Von said, “This sounds crazy, dude. This sounds like we're only going to be human for, like, two more years. … They're going to have every — know everything about us. It makes you feel like you won't be a person anymore.” Von stated in a later episode “you won't be able to be a, like, hypothetically or on paper, illegal person in America in two years.” YouTube, *This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von,* [6/7/25, 7/23/25, 9/5/25]
- White nationalist commentator Nick Fuentes said that Palantir was “infiltrated from top to bottom by Israel” while criticizing Peter Thiel's connection to Vance. Fuentes said, “JD Vance, what do we know about him? He was mentored and groomed and basically a creation of Peter Thiel, the creator of Palantir, who is running Palantir with people like Alex Karp, infiltrated from top to bottom by Israel, and Trump picked him at the behest of Tucker and Musk.” Rumble, *America First with Nick Fuentes*, [9/19/25; Media Matters, 10/2/25]
- White nationalist podcaster Stew Peters called the Trump administration “a big joke,” claiming: “It's time to roll in Palantir and you know, put the final launching measures on this super surveillance state that our enemy wishes to deploy here in the United States — track, trace, and control.”Peters said, “JD Vance with his cryptic statement saying hey, you know, President Trump is in really good health but if tragedy strikes, I'm ready to lead. And then you see Peter Thiel right behind him smiling.” Rumble, *The Stew Peters Show,*[9/4/25; Media Matters, 3/13/23]
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oct 3 3, 2020
What you need to know about the “Google for spies”
If you know the name Palantir, you probably know that it’s associated with Peter Thiel, that it contracts with defense and law enforcement agencies, and that it works with data somehow, including data from surveillance systems. You might get that it’s named, creepily enough, after the magical “seeing-stones” in *Lord of the Rings*.
But what exactly it is that Palantir doeshas not always been clear from media coverage. That’s partly because the company has intentionally cultivated an air of secrecy and mystery around its work. But it’s also partly because the actual nature of its work is somewhat murky and hard to pin down, even once you know what it is.
On Thursday, Palantir went public in a direct listing, completing a transition from a shadowy Silicon Valley unicorn to one that must answer quarterly to investors and regulators. Its shares dipped just a bit from their initial price but left the company with a hefty valuation on the order of $20 billion, per the Wall Street Journal. That’s remarkable for a company that has just 125 customers.
Enterprise software companies tend to stay out of the spotlight; their products are not used, let alone beloved, by the masses, as are those of consumer software giants such as Google. But Palantir in particular is worth knowing about, because it embodies a vision of technology’s role in society that carries profound implications for all of us. And the Google comparison is more instructive than it might seem: Palantir is, in some ways, the yin to Google’s yang.
The Pattern
Palantir is a tech company built for our emerging dystopia.
- To understand what Palantir does, there’s no better starting point than this New Yorkmagazine profile by Sharon Weinberger, published on the day the company went public. Palantir’s promise, she notes, is “to ingest the mountains of data collected by soldiers and spies and police — fingerprints, signals intelligence, bank records, tips from confidential informants — and enable users to spot hidden relationships, uncover criminal and terrorist networks, and even anticipate future attacks.”
- In short, Palantir is “a sort of Google for spies,” although it now serves corporate and public health clients as well as soldiers and spooks. This is consistent with Palantir’s self-description, in its public filing, as a purveyor of software that “enables our customers to transform massive amounts of information into knowledge that reflects their world.”
- What makes Weinberger’s piece so valuable, however, is how it interrogates the margins between what Palantir promises and what it delivers. For Palantir to realize its vision at scale, it would have to largely automate the process of combining and converting vast, messy data sets into actionable insights about the world. That’s a very high bar for artificial intelligence, and Weinberger’s reporting suggests that Palantir isn’t particularly close to meeting it. Instead, like many of today’s ambitious automation tools, its platform requires what one intelligence-community source called “RFOP,” or “rooms full of people” working behind the curtain to clean, label, and interpret the data. Palantir also sends employees that it calls “forward-deployed**engineers” to work permanently onsite with clients, helping them tailor the platform to their needs. (You can learn more about the quotidian mechanics of the work by reading Quora posts from current and former Palantir employees.)
- More than any crystal-ball wizardry, Palantir has won over big clients such as the U.S. Army through white-glove customer service and consulting, plus a user interface much slicker and friendlier than the often-outdated systems it seeks to replace. It has been helped along the way by clever sales tactics, Thiel’s relationship with the Trump administration, and a willingness to lose piles of money in pursuit of future growth. (Palantir has never turned a profit.)
- As a business, then, Palantir is very different from Google. One provides free, heavily automated tools to the masses in exchange for data to power targeted ads. The other provides expensive, labor-intensive data modeling tools and data consulting services on an exclusive basis to a limited number of huge organizations, whose data it promises to keep private. (Palantir has struggled to tap the local law enforcement market, with a few notable exceptions, because it’s simply too expensive.) Palantir’s rift with Silicon Valley is not merely abstract; it’s actually relocating to Denver from Palo Alto.
- Palantir CEO Alex Karp defines his company’s values in opposition to Google’s. In Palantir’s S-1 filing, he took an implicit shot at Google for walking away from its Project Maven military contract in response to employee backlash, while continuing to invade its own users’ privacy. “Our software is used to target terrorists and to keep soldiers safe,” Karp wrote. “We have chosen sides.” At Davos in January, he acknowledged that Palantir has helped ICE find and deport immigrants (as Motherboard had previously uncovered), and defended the company’s government contracts. “The core mission of our company always was tomake the West, especially America, the strongest in the world, the strongest it’s ever been, for the sake of global peace and prosperity,” he said in an interview there.
- That sort of muscular rhetoric, along with Thiel’s Trump ties and Palantir’s business model, would seem to belie Karp’s own claim to be politically progressive. (To the extent these men’s ideologies matter, by the way, it’s because Palantir’s governance structure as a public company keeps almost all the power in its founders’ hands In fact, Karp identified as neo-Marxist in his grad school days, when he earned a doctorate in “neoclassical social theory” at Germany’s Goethe University, home to the famous philosopher Jurgen Habermas.
- For a deeper dive into Karp’s philosophy, and an attempt to reconcile it with the politics of both Thiel and Palantir itself, you can read this fascinating critique of his dissertation by the historian and media theorist Moira Weigel, published in July in the journal boundary 2. (You could also try reading the dissertation itself, I suppose, provided you can read German and have a lot of time on your hands.) In Weigel’s reading, despite their ideological differences, both Karp and Thiel “regard the desire to commit violence as a constant, founding fact of human life.” And while Karp engages with critical theory, his account of aggression’s primary role in language, culture, and socialization is fundamentally analytical rather than normative. That is, he takes it as a given rather than a problem to be overcome.
- In a phone interview for this newsletter Friday, Weigel expanded on how Karp’s philosophy relates to his work with Palantir. “When you take up the tradition of what he calls neo-Marxism and take away the emancipatory impulse that animated it — that the point is to make society less violent— what you get is a very pessimistic view of modernity and society,” she said. That dark worldview helps to explain why Karp might regard the appropriate response as being to simply “choose a side,” as he put it in Palantir’s S-1 — and keep a vigilant watch on what the other side is up to.
- Here again, the contrasts with Google are striking. Google’s aesthetic is sunny and whimsical — think of its colorful logo, its doodles, its dessert-themed Android operating systems — and its products often reflect a worldview that is optimistic to a fault. Its tools promise to put the world’s information in everyone’s hands, for free; it speaks of information as empowering and democratizing, and implicitly assumes that people will use it for good. That’s a convenient assumption for Google’s business model, because a world in which information is unlikely to be abused is one in which people freely share their data, which can in turn be leveraged to show them relevant ads. If Palantir’s world is zero-sum, Google’s is win-win; Palantir runs on suspicion, Google on trust.
- Zoom out far enough, though, and Palantir and Google start to look like flipsides of the same coin. Ultimately, both promise to harness machine learning and computing power to bring together and organize disparate sources of information and make it searchable. The customers and revenue models are different, but the value proposition is the same — to allow people to quickly surface and synthesize information that would otherwise remain disjunct and obscure. (That’s one reason they so often compete for the same engineering talent; according to the New Yorkprofile, early Palantir employees wore t-shirts that said “Google is our backup job.”) And while each might point fingers at the other, surveillance is integral to both models. In one, the customers are doing the surveilling; in the other, the customers are the ones surveilled.
- Privacy theorists sometimes talk about “privacy through obscurity” — the idea that the average person’s everyday privacy resides not in a lack of available information about them, but in the difficulty of tracking it down. Your ISP might know what websites you visit; the DMV knows your license plate number; your next-door neighbor knows what time you leave the house each day; the local newspaper may have an old article about you somewhere in its archives. But as long as no single entity has ready access to all of that information, a semblance of privacy remains intact.
- To see how Palantir explodes that obscurity, consider its partnership with the Los Angeles Police Department. In a *BuzzFeed News*investigation this week, Caroline Haskins detailed how the company trained officers to use its tools to stitch together every piece of data they can get their hands on. “At great taxpayer expense, and without public oversight or regulation, Palantir helped the LAPD construct a vast database that indiscriminately lists the names, addresses, phone numbers, license plates, friendships, romances, jobs of Angelenos — the guilty, innocent, and those in between.”
- There are, of course, benefits and downsides to obscurity: It can empower activists to challenge governments, protect stalking victims from their stalkers — or enable criminals to evade detection. Google and Palantir think about those risks and tradeoffs very differently, with one insisting your data is safe in its hands, the other pledging to only track the bad guys on behalf of reputable clients. Yet by building tools to automate the integration of disparate data sources about people, both Google and Palantir are fundamentally anti-obscurity — and, by extension, anti-privacy. If neither has yet built anything quite like the all-seeing stone from Lord of the Rings, it isn’t for lack of trying.
- Google and Palantir aren’t the only companies automating the connection of informational dots, of course. The Softbank-backed startup Banjo AI — whose now-ousted founder was a former neo-Nazi — seeks to combine real-time data from various feeds, including surveillance video, to detect events such as emergencies as they happen. I wrote last week about how the surveillance tech built by Ring, Amazon’s home security subsidiary, empowers people to spy on each other. There’s a way of looking at today’s tech industry in which its business is essentially to eliminate society’s frictions: the obstacles to interaction, to information, to instantaneous fulfilment of desires. But the friction involved in tracking anyone you find suspicious, for any reason, is one we might be better off holding onto.
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